Jeep Willys

DKG · 17th March 2008, 14:33

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

Yup that is the original Tempo G1200. I assume you saw it in Goa. Twin engined, which used a seperate gearbox for each engine. It also featured 4 wheel steering. The car in question in Pune has none of these features, plus is a RHD. The Tempo G1200 was never sold in RHD form.

No, saw one in Rajasthan. Isn't it amazing how so many interesting cars came to India?

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 17th March 2008, 14:35

Dear Gogibhai - what engine to fit in a CJ3B ? Fit an XD3P yaar !

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

V-16 · 17th March 2008, 14:41

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Originally Posted by DHABHAR.BEHRAM

Dear Gogibhai - what engine to fit in a CJ3B ? Fit an XD3P yaar !

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

Sir meri kya majaal that I even think of doing anything to my CJ without your expert advice. When I do get delivery, i shall first, call you. I am actually thinking of keeping it original petrol.

egangsta · 17th March 2008, 14:52

Orignal PETROL Engine sir. Please keep the orignal petrol engine.

RPMPKDMFF · 17th March 2008, 14:52

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Originally Posted by karlosdeville

It has been established that the vehicle has Korean origins, and it is not a Willys, but probably built under liscense. We use the term "jeep" here very loosely, not as a brandname but describing the category of vehicle.

My point being, this vehicle could not have been built under a license since the absence of the trademark grille. A company that has been granted a license to build a Jeep (trademark) would also have the right to use the seven slat grille... much the same as Mahindra had some years ago.

Although I did manage to dig up a name Keohwa and the model seems to be M-5GA2, they were infact licensed to build Jeeps, but probably only other models as they had some models with seven slat grilles. However the M-5GA2 had the grille rotated for legal reasons it is presumed.

The Keohwa company is now part of Ssangyong Motors

More information can be found here - Jeeps in Korea on The CJ3B Page & KEOHWA

PS. Just thought of giving some constructive criticism, did mean to offend anyone. If I did, then I apologize.

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 17th March 2008, 19:11

Thanks Gogibhai (saala koi to bhi recognize kiya). I will be very surprised if the F4134 petrol engine is still there in the car. Please send me details / photographs. I have PMd my E mail ID to you.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

vsatyan · 18th March 2008, 10:28

There's a Willy CJ3B 1966 for sale here in Bangalore - it has an older engine (not international) with a MM540 gearbox. It's pretty noisy and there is some steering play also one of the engine mounts has come off so the engine vibrates quite a bit.

If I do pick it up than which engine would be the recommended transplant?
a) Would an OM616 engine (trax) fit into the bay?
b) Does anyone have an idea of the cost of a Toyota engine? Availability?c) Is fitting a 4WD (mahindra) transfer case an expensive option?
d) An MM540 engine (Peugeot I assume) is available with a local mechanic for 16k - is this a good option?

Thanks a ton for your help in advance!

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 18th March 2008, 11:39

Please post photographs. I will reply in totality.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

vsatyan · 18th March 2008, 12:46

Thanks Behram - Will try and get some pictures over the weekend. I forgot to shoot pics with my phone

. Will a picture of the engine bay, instrument console and front and rear views of the Jeep do?

JayD · 18th March 2008, 14:48

A low bonnet getting a diesel engine transplant!

Atleast the 4wd is maintained!!

gotzuk · 18th March 2008, 18:42

This one seems to be a Ford GPW..
JayD, is that right??

R.G · 18th March 2008, 21:49

Thatz a Willys MB/ Ford GPW if am not wrong.

@JayD Thanks for the pics..where is this garage?? any idea how much it cost the owner??

V-16 · 18th March 2008, 23:14

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Originally Posted by vsatyan

Thanks Behram - Will try and get some pictures over the weekend. I forgot to shoot pics with my phone

. Will a picture of the engine bay, instrument console and front and rear views of the Jeep do?

Just send him a pic of one wheel nut. He will tell you the full life history of the jeep. You dont know who you are talking to boss!! We dont call him BehramBHAI for nothing...right Behrambhai.

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Originally Posted by JayD

A low bonnet getting a diesel engine transplant!

Atleast the 4wd is maintained!!

JayD get me the original petrol engine please please please please please!!!(kneeling down with folded hands)

iraghava · 19th March 2008, 00:04

Oh yeah, V-16/JayD, that Calicut Jeep in Delhi is sold for 4.5L according to the dealer!

I don't know whether he was sober at the time when he told me this or not!

JayD · 19th March 2008, 00:39

@gotzuk, RG, yes that's a ford i think.

@Gogi, Since u've got the jeep now, i'll somehow manage the engine.The other fellow said he'd get me one, will follow up on that surely!

@ Irags,4.5

!!!!

P.S:I think he was sober when he quoted 4.5!! That nut had put and ad in autocar india for 5 lac!

17th March 2008, 14:35	#212
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,354 Times	Dear Gogibhai - what engine to fit in a CJ3B ? Fit an XD3P yaar ! Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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17th March 2008, 14:52	#214
egangsta BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: thane Posts: 365 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Orignal PETROL Engine sir. Please keep the orignal petrol engine.
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17th March 2008, 19:11	#216
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,354 Times	Thanks Gogibhai (saala koi to bhi recognize kiya). I will be very surprised if the F4134 petrol engine is still there in the car. Please send me details / photographs. I have PMd my E mail ID to you. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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18th March 2008, 10:28	#217
vsatyan Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times	Willys CJ3B 1966 OK condition - need some suggestions There's a Willy CJ3B 1966 for sale here in Bangalore - it has an older engine (not international) with a MM540 gearbox. It's pretty noisy and there is some steering play also one of the engine mounts has come off so the engine vibrates quite a bit. If I do pick it up than which engine would be the recommended transplant? a) Would an OM616 engine (trax) fit into the bay? b) Does anyone have an idea of the cost of a Toyota engine? Availability?c) Is fitting a 4WD (mahindra) transfer case an expensive option? d) An MM540 engine (Peugeot I assume) is available with a local mechanic for 16k - is this a good option? Thanks a ton for your help in advance!
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18th March 2008, 11:39	#218
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,354 Times	Please post photographs. I will reply in totality. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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18th March 2008, 12:46	#219
vsatyan Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 6 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks Behram - Will try and get some pictures over the weekend. I forgot to shoot pics with my phone . Will a picture of the engine bay, instrument console and front and rear views of the Jeep do?
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18th March 2008, 14:48	#220
JayD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cochin! At last Posts: 3,236 Thanked: 2,568 Times View My Garage	A low bonnet getting a diesel engine transplant! Atleast the 4wd is maintained!! Attached Thumbnails
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18th March 2008, 18:42	#221
gotzuk BHPian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Delhi / Shimla Posts: 496 Thanked: 114 Times View My Garage	This one seems to be a Ford GPW.. JayD, is that right??
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18th March 2008, 21:49	#222
R.G BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 179 Thanked: 161 Times	Thatz a Willys MB/ Ford GPW if am not wrong. @JayD Thanks for the pics..where is this garage?? any idea how much it cost the owner??
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19th March 2008, 00:04	#224
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	Oh yeah, V-16/JayD, that Calicut Jeep in Delhi is sold for 4.5L according to the dealer! I don't know whether he was sober at the time when he told me this or not!
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19th March 2008, 00:39	#225
JayD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cochin! At last Posts: 3,236 Thanked: 2,568 Times View My Garage	@gotzuk, RG, yes that's a ford i think. @Gogi, Since u've got the jeep now, i'll somehow manage the engine.The other fellow said he'd get me one, will follow up on that surely! @ Irags,4.5 !!!! P.S:I think he was sober when he quoted 4.5!! That nut had put and ad in autocar india for 5 lac!
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