[mail4ajo]

Samurai, why does Apple keep so much control on its developers and apps? Is that a pro or a con? I think it limits the features that can be offered on the apps. Look at Android. I am missing so many features after having paid so much while Android guys are enjoying it all.

[rtandon]

Originally Posted by dre@ms

Betas are available. I have updated my iTunes, downloading the iOS5 beta now

dre@ms, have you updated your iPhone to iOS5? Which phone?

Any issues with calls and wifi?
Thanks

[FanaticOnWheels]

The phone was bought in Dubai, and the carrier that it was locked to, I do not know. I am using a different carrier here though, Vodafone. I do get the "cannot activate cellular network" notification at times, but there is no problem in using the phone.

How do I identify if my phone was factory unlocked anyways?

[rtandon]

Originally Posted by FanaticOnWheels

The phone was bought in Dubai, and the carrier that it was locked to, I do not know.
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How do I identify if my phone was factory unlocked anyways?

Does it have cydia installed on it?

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by FanaticOnWheels

My iPhones's contract was actually cancelled by the shopkeeper (in Dubai) and sold to me. Now, if I upgrade my iOS, will my phone get locked or will there be no problems? I have, in fact, not upgraded my OS so far from the factory version fearing a lock. Any insights? (it's an iPhone 4)

Originally Posted by FanaticOnWheels

The phone was bought in Dubai, and the carrier that it was locked to, I do not know. I am using a different carrier here though, Vodafone. I do get the "cannot activate cellular network" notification at times, but there is no problem in using the phone.

How do I identify if my phone was factory unlocked anyways?

iPhone sold officially in DXB are NOT locked to carriers, they do come with contract but that does not mean they are locked. Am using one here in India.

You can upgrade if its is a phone sold OFFICIALLY through DU or Etisalat.

[FanaticOnWheels]

Originally Posted by rtandon

Does it have cydia installed on it?

No it doesn't. It is not a jailbroken phone.

Originally Posted by Jaggu

iPhone sold officially in DXB are NOT locked to carriers, they do come with contract but that does not mean they are locked. Am using one here in India.

You can upgrade if its is a phone sold OFFICIALLY through DU or Etisalat.

Let me clear this up : I got it as a gift from my father, whose friend bought it for him from Dubai. What he told my father was that the contract was cancelled by the shopkeeper before the phone was given to him.

What is DXB btw? Now this phone had a contract (apparently, I'm still hazy over this fact), and it was terminated by the shopkeeper. It's not jailbroken. So isn't it now unlocked for good? Wonder why Apple had to do this nonsense in the first place.

[Jaggu]

Originally Posted by FanaticOnWheels

What is DXB btw? Now this phone had a contract (apparently, I'm still hazy over this fact), and it was terminated by the shopkeeper. It's not jailbroken. So isn't it now unlocked for good? Wonder why Apple had to do this nonsense in the first place.

My bad DXB is Dubai

And its not apple but the telecom operator that sells these phones, so it comes bundled with contract either post paid or pre-paid which can be cancelled as soon as the purchase is done.

United Arab Emirates phones are unlocked, am quite sure about this.

[FanaticOnWheels]

Right. My bad actually .

I do, however, sometimes get a notification saying "Cannot activate cellular network", though it doesn't affect my phone in any way. I badly want iOS 5, and hope it doesn't screw up my phone. I am not very intent on jailbreaking yet. (I've jailbroken my IPT though).

[Jaggu]

Cannot activate cell network is because the APN setting for cellular data is not updated in phone OR if it is only intermittent then bad signal or cell network. Basically it means your EDGE/GPRS/3G is not connecting at that point of time.

[FanaticOnWheels]

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Cannot activate cell network is because the APN setting for cellular data is not updated in phone OR if it is only intermittent then bad signal or cell network. Basically it means your EDGE/GPRS/3G is not connecting at that point of time.

But isn't that related to the cellular data pop up? I get two different pop ups. The one regarding cellular data when I try browsing without Wi-Fi (I don't have EDGE/3G). This other warning was "cannot activate cellular network"- exact words. I just tap the OK button and carry on. Nothing abnormal happens though. Phone works just fine.

[Jaggu]

I think its a settings issue, so even when you use phone if some app is trying to access data in the background it pops up.

[FanaticOnWheels]

Right. Thanks for answering all my queries patiently Jaggu. I'll give you a treat if iOS 5 runs fine on my phone

[dre@ms]

Originally Posted by rtandon

Any issues with calls and wifi?
Thanks

My iTunes is acting crazy from the day I updated it to 10.5
iTunes store is blank, backing up doesnt end, and restore to iOS5 doest do anything.
I downgraded to 10.3, but still the same, trying to fix those issues, once the back up works, i will update to iOS5
Iam using the 3GS

[saildrive]

Guys

How come you got itunes 10.5, just updated my itunes - it was 10.2.2, says thats the latest

Am on windows and not Mac - is that the issue here?

BTW - I too have the Dubai phone - but am sorting my MTNL card related issues here, should do it by weekend.

Prior to that it worked fine for 3-4 days, got it last week - Etisalat Carrier, also havent upgraded the phone to 4.3.3 that is available. It says it will take some 16 hours to download.....phew!!

OT - Has anyone tried to get CYDIA from limera1n (some dude Mahesh Kukreja has jailbroken the same for almost all of iPhones version 1/2/3/4 and even iPad - so his website says)

Jaggu I presume you know this

[puneet_b]

Originally Posted by dre@ms

You can upgrade. Jailbreak is available, but a tethered one. And there is no need for your iPhone UDID to be added to a dev account too. There is a trick which will bypass the activation.

Ah thanks for the tip. I'll wait for the untethered one. Tethered ones are quite obnoxious.