[RSimonS]

I have a home theatre set up at home, this was set up around 4+ years back. The details are as follows

TV - 29 Inch Sony Wega
Amp - Jamo AVR 693
Speakers - Jamo S 606 HCS3
DVD Player - Philips

I picked this up at a time when HD was still in its very early stages. 2 months back I upgraded my TV to a Full HD one and thinking of procuring a BlueRay Player

As my Amp does not support HD, changing the DVD player will not help me completly as my AMP will not be able to decode the sound.

Can you please suggest the options I have, also what to do with the Jamo Amp incase I decide on changing it?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Cheers,
RS

[NetfreakBombay]

You can decode sound in Blue Ray player itself. In that case, existing Amp can be used. You can feed the Amp via Coaxial/Optical cables.

[BaCkSeAtDrIVeR]

Originally Posted by RSimonS

As my Amp does not support HD, changing the DVD player will not help me completly as my AMP will not be able to decode the sound..

Waitaminit. AFAIK, amp has nothing to with HD video. I takes out only the audio, amplifies it, and passes on the video signal to the TV, unmodified (except for its own menu, for amps with OSD. Hope somebody will correct me if I am wrong.

Edit:- Is a 29 inch TV sufficient for Video?

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Can you please suggest the options I have, also what to do with the Jamo Amp incase I decide on changing it?

If the amp is DTS capable, you may not have to change it.

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

1. Composite Video cable (Yellow Color Port) will connect it to CRT to Video
2. Red and White colored Stereo ports will send audio to TV

Yes, this solved the problem. Thanks.

Originally Posted by sanjayc

Where exactly is the issue?

Now, I am feeling sheepish. Seems that the stereo system I am using has some issue with one channel. Had not noticed it earlier. Now that the speakers are spread real wide, the problem is apparent.

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

If the amp is DTS capable, you may not have to change it.

DTS (Or Dolby) is used by DVD Quality Audio files. Blu Ray uses more advanced codec (DTS MA HD or Dolby True HD).

Either Amp has to understand this format or Bly Ray has to decode and stream decoded audio over HDMI (Optical/ Coaxial cables do not have enough bandwidth for these newer codecs)

[BaCkSeAtDrIVeR]

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

DTS (Or Dolby) is used by DVD Quality Audio files. Blu Ray uses more advanced codec (DTS MA HD or Dolby True HD).

Either Amp has to understand this format or .....

Assuming that the amp does not understand this format (DTS true / MA HD), how will the player communicate the audio signals to the amp?

Bly Ray has to decode and stream decoded audio over HDMI (Optical/ Coaxial cables do not have enough bandwidth for these newer codecs)

So, no HDMI, no use of Blue Ray?

[vivek_lo]

I have a 32" Sony Bravisa LCD. I am looking for a decent HT. I have shortlisted ONKYO HT S 3360. The room where I plan to install is 16 x 14. Main needs are good quality AV(not keen on loud volume). Devices to connect- Xbox, HD DTH reportedly with 5.1 optical output, ipod and at a later date a bluray dvd player. I am no expert in AV and most of the jargons in the spec are beyond my analytical ability. Any cooments/ experience?

Do you have any alternate suggestions in Chennai. Butget is aroud 40K

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

Assuming that the amp does not understand this format (DTS true / MA HD), how will the player communicate the audio signals to the amp?

Player will decode the audio and send raw audio data to Amp (LPCM). Some older Amp might not be able to handle such large amount of Raw data (because of High Resolution and and High Sampling frequency E.g. 36 bits @ 192 KHz)

Or player can send the channels via analogue but some fidality would be lost due to DAC and ADC conversion in Player and Amp.

Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

So, no HDMI, no use of Blue Ray?

Pretty much yes. Though analogue Video / Audio cables can help to certain extent.

Analogue Video (three video cables instead of single yellow) can carry video up to 720p, and you can use 6 cables for Audio.

But practically, handling 20 cables is a nightmare (power + audio to Amp + video + FM + Audio to Speakers)

[RSimonS]

I am sorry about the delayed response, was not having access. Thanks a lot for all the suggestions.

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

You can decode sound in Blue Ray player itself. In that case, existing Amp can be used. You can feed the Amp via Coaxial/Optical cables.

This is the cheapest option. But with this, wont we be loosing the sound information as my amp will not be able to decode the HD encoding?

Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

Waitaminit. AFAIK, amp has nothing to with HD video. I takes out only the audio, amplifies it, and passes on the video signal to the TV, unmodified (except for its own menu, for amps with OSD. Hope somebody will correct me if I am wrong.

Edit:- Is a 29 inch TV sufficient for Video?

TV is a 46 inch one. So it supports Full HD

Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay

Player will decode the audio and send raw audio data to Amp (LPCM). Some older Amp might not be able to handle such large amount of Raw data (because of High Resolution and and High Sampling frequency E.g. 36 bits @ 192 KHz)

Or player can send the channels via analogue but some fidality would be lost due to DAC and ADC conversion in Player and Amp.

Pretty much yes. Though analogue Video / Audio cables can help to certain extent.

Analogue Video (three video cables instead of single yellow) can carry video up to 720p, and you can use 6 cables for Audio.

But practically, handling 20 cables is a nightmare (power + audio to Amp + video + FM + Audio to Speakers)

If the amp can handle both audio an video, i can direct all my cables to the amp and then from the amp to the TV and the surround speackers... Seems like a very costly dream though.

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by RSimonS

wont we be loosing the sound information as my amp will not be able to decode the HD encoding?

It would loose HD Audio. Blu Ray player will downsample audio to DTS Core. In my opinion, that should be sufficient since most music sources (E.g. Audio CD) are still SD.

Originally Posted by RSimonS

If the amp can handle both audio an video, i can direct all my cables to the amp and then from the amp to the TV and the surround speackers... Seems like a very costly dream though.

Such Amps are AVR (Audio Video Receiver). Cost starts from 20,000. Cost comes down to 12,000 if bought in US and carried as hand baggage.

[RSimonS]

I am kind of getting an inclination for Yamaha 667 or Denon 1911... both seems to be good AVRs, yes we will get it for half the price in US. How do we trasnport it from US, as the secod checkin buggage? Any idea?

[csentil]

Originally Posted by RSimonS

I am kind of getting an inclination for Yamaha 667 or Denon 1911... both seems to be good AVRs, yes we will get it for half the price in US. How do we trasnport it from US, as the secod checkin buggage? Any idea?

Depends on weight. You should be able to bring 23 kgs without any problem. Check on total packaged weight which should be available in the description of the product in Amazon.

Best is to check it in and bring it. If its overweight by a couple of kgs, you can still pay the excess luggage fare.

Keep the receipt with you for Customs purposes.

Other option is to remove the packaging and put it in your suitcase, provided it fits and stuff enough clothes on all sides to ensure it is not damaged. However the bigger receivers will not fit and you also need to have a soft top/bottom luggage for doing this.

[NetfreakBombay]

Originally Posted by RSimonS

I am kind of getting an inclination for Yamaha 667 or Denon 1911... both seems to be good AVRs, yes we will get it for half the price in US. How do we trasnport it from US, as the secod checkin buggage? Any idea?

You can buy a throwaway large bag at any chinatown for $30 or so. This can be used to carry AVR + clothes around it to shield it.

[s.prashanth]

I have a philips led 55 inch, denon hdmi with 3d support 7.1 amp, elac sub, onkyo speakers, philips hdmi dvd player and panasonic blu ray

[naveenroy]

Originally Posted by kites

I recently bought a Western Digital Live TV player, it plays almost all the video and audio formats .mkv even. it has two usb ports with HDMI output port as well supporting 1080p. It costed me 7000/- inclusive tax in bangalore s.p road. I highly recommend it.

Nice buy kites - looks like I made the mistake of buying the Sony Blu-ray player before checking out other options. This now seems to fit the bill perfectly.

I have a few questions though - does this read off an NTFS hard-drive? Cause when I am using the Sony Blu-ray player, it can only read FAT formatted HDD and this becomes a problem since I cannot view files that are larger than 4 GB in size.

Does it come with a HDMI cable?

Any issues you've had so far with the player? Quirks?

[jassi]

^^ maybe i am missing something here, but most HDTVs can now read fat/ntfs (and even ext4) formatted drives and can play everything from mkv, avi to mp3 and even flac!! WD live tv is useless in such cases. Anything more and you'd be better off connecting a laptop (with xbmc or media center) to your TV
Yes i do see value in a blu ray player over a WD tv player in that case, but yeah a bluray laptop beats em all!