[g_goyal2000]

Originally Posted by g_goyal2000

Thanks for the wishes & blessings and prompt replies. I apologize I could not post an update earlier.

My kid is okay now & is in recovery. Thankfully, the need to hospitalize him did not arise. Past week had been very hectic. Can't imagine how we would've managed had there not been another car in the family, but thankfully there is.

I have an RSA from TATA AIG. Called them up and they gave me an ETA of around 2 hours. I declined since I park my car more than half a KM from my home due to parking constraints in my locality and I wasn't going to sit/stand around for 2 hours in summer heat.

I checked the headlights as well as the horn. They both were working. I even tried depressing the pedal while trying to start the car. But the engine still does not crank up.

Had a chat with a local car mechanic and he too concurred that it's been more than 4 years and battery need to be changed. As for the working headlights, horn, dashboard, stereo system, etc., he said that battery must have some residual charge left but not enough to crank up the engine. Sounds weird.

Anyway, have decided to change the car battery. If not already, in next 6 months, the battery might go kaput. Current factory fitted battery is Amaron. Should I again go with Amaron or some other brand such as Exide or Luminous? Any specific model I should choose?

Kindly advise. Thanks.

Okay, so my dad with the help of few neighbourhood taxi drivers managed to start the car by pushing it. He took the car to the local car mechanic who diagnosed the issue as a faulty "engine start/crank part" near/inside the engine i.e. some part between the engine & push start/stop button.

New "local" part cost about Rs.1500/-.
And he left the faulty "engine start/crank part" at the mechanic's so don't even know what part(s) was replaced.

He got the PUC done but did not get the battery changed.

All of this behind my back within 1-2 hours while I was with my son who was attending his online classes.

I have not yet tested the car. Though had a pretty heated argument with him but couldn't say much since he's the owner of the car.

Now my concerns:

1. If the "engine start/crank part" was faulty, how did the car start on being pushed?
2. Can the "local" Hyundai part cause any issue/problems in the vehicle?
3. Will using "local" Hyundai part void my extended warranty?
4. Should I get the "local" Hyundai part replaced with a Hyundai original part?
5. If I do somehow manage to get the faulty part back from the mechanic, can I ask the HASS to replace the part with a genuine part under Extended Warranty?
6. Should I get the battery replaced now? If yes, which brand & model.

This is getting more & more frustating.
Kindly advise.

[fazayal]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

Thanks for your response.

There is a service calculator of Hyundai that lists these headings (https://www.hyundai.com/in/en/connec...ice-calculator). "Manual Transmission" is one item.

I took this list to Trident Hyundai and asked them to fill up charges against the relevant headings.

Let me ask them what "Manual Transmission" is.

After thinking for sometime, i think it's Gearbox Oil. I could be wrong though.

[dearchichi]

Originally Posted by drmohitg

All the above is most likely not required. The best way is to simply refer to your owner manual and see what all items Hyundai recommends to change at the 40k km service. One discrepancy would be that the service centre would be likely going by the age of the car and following the service requirement at the end of 7 years. You may be looking at the odometer value and referring to that column. Assuming that your car has a 10k km service interval, as per the service centre they are doing the service as per 7 years/70k kms mark.

Thanks for the suggestion. Hyundai's online service estimator only lists engine oil and engine oil filter to be replaced for 7 years/70K KMs mark. Upon discussing again, the service advisor stated that only those parts that need to be replaced would be done so. I will take the car to the service center, have it inspected and arrive as the revised estimation.

Originally Posted by PaddleShifter

Also, check the break up of labour cost. Say, this manual transmission costs Rs400. The labour charges for its service could be much more.

Lastly, I think it would be fair to go ahead with this estimate and service part replacements. It will give you peace of mind in the long run. Congratulations on your new acquisition. Wishing you countless happy miles of ownership.

Sure, will gather the breakup of the labour cost too. Their combined estimate, including labour, was Rs. 8500 as mentioned in the OP.

Thanks for the wishes. :-)

Originally Posted by fazayal

After thinking for sometime, i think it's Gearbox Oil. I could be wrong though.

You are right! I called up the service advisor and that is what he had to say. Is this recommended for my car?

[drmohitg]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

Thanks for the suggestion. Hyundai's online service estimator only lists engine oil and engine oil filter to be replaced for 7 years/70K KMs mark. Upon discussing again, the service advisor stated that only those parts that need to be replaced would be done so. I will take the car to the service center, have it inspected and arrive as the revised estimation.

They will sell you the following items:

1. Grade of oil: Your Choice. Do not listen to their logic. I usually go with what the manufacturer has clearly mentioned in the owner's manual.
2. Various lubricants for brakes, belts, rubber items etc. Not needed if you ask me. Also no way of ensuring if they even do it properly.
3. Engine cleaning/dr-carbonizing treatments: Again not needed.
4. Wheel alignment and balancing: you are better off getting these done from an FNG in your presence.

Just follow the owner's manual. And any additional issues that you have have, not what they sell.

[hserus]

Gearbox oil, brake oil and coolant have a time limit after which they must be drained and refilled, not just a km limit. So replacing them in an older car is fair even if it is lightly run.

The replacement interval will be there in the manual and current levels of all these in the car are also a factor.

[ChoosetoCruze]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

The car had barely run from 2018 (which was when the previous service was done) upto 6 months ago. It has since been driven for about 5000 KM.

Trident Hyundai, Bengaluru, has given the following estimate for the routine service.

Air cleaner/filter......................Rs. 300
Engine oil...............................Rs. 1102
Engine oil filter........................Rs. 250
Climate control air filter............Rs. 650
Fuel filter................................Rs. 400
Engine coolant.........................Rs. 500
Spark plugs.............................Rs. 450
Brake oil.................................Rs. 250
Manual transmission.................Rs. 400
Engine belts.............................Rs. 1500
Total parts...............................Rs. 5802
Total (including labour charges)..Rs. 8500 (as per their estimate)

Is the above maintenance drill regular for this car when run to 40,000KM

As hserus has advised above, there are some parts & fluids in an automobile which need to be replaced after a time interval (not just by kms).

In your list above, if I were you, I would change all that has been recommended except transmission fluid unless Hyundai recommends changing it at the 7yr mark. Check your service manual for that.

Also, which engine belts are they referring to? If it’s the fan belt, that might make sense since it might be the original 7yr old belt & it may have developed cracks & loosened after all these years. If it’s the timing belt, I’m not sure it may need replacing on a 40,000kms run vehicle. But no matter what, stick to the guidance in your manual for the age of your vehicle.

Watch out for add on services sneaked into the labour charges.

[INJAXN]

I faced the infamous exhaust pipe issue in my dad’s i10 yesterday.

Car started making some noise 3-4 days ago, there was some power lag also. So I decided to take it Hyundai service centre today in Indore.

Today morning I started for Harsh hyundai, 2 kms from my parent’s house in Indore. After few 100 metres from my house I heard a big noise of something falling from underbody of the car, I quickly stopped the car, got down and saw that the silencer is hanging from one end and kissing the tarmac from another. It got totally detached from the exhaust pipe.

Called the local mechanic, he came quickly and helped in removing the silencer completely , he assured that rest is fine and a small welding job should be good enough to attach the silencer with the exhaust pipe.

I drove to Hyundai service centre, there I was told that exhaust pipe and silencer both needs to be replaced. Exhaust pipe is all rusted and silencer also is in bad shape. I also went under the car and saw that Exhaust pipe was all rusted ( could see it from broken end)

I then decided to get the job done at local shop as I was not ready to pay 8k just for the pipe. Silencer also looked in good shape to me and there was not odd noise or black smoke coming out of it.

Went to a local gas welding shop, they specialise in silencers, they removed the old pipe and showed that it is actually rusted from inside. I could see couple of tiny holes after the cleaning it from outside.
There workshop had lot of exhaust pipes,we selected one which was in good shape and no rust (though it was not new), they replaced the pipe , gas welded from both the ends. I took a small test drive, no noise now. Payed ₹1900/- for the pipe and there service and returned back.

A new pipe would have costed me 10k atleast, hoping that this local job will serve good.

[venkyhere]

@INJAXN,
are your rear shock absorbers leaking ? is the ride quality very spongy ?

[INJAXN]

Originally Posted by venkyhere

@INJAXN,
are your rear shock absorbers leaking ? is the ride quality very spongy ?

No, did not notice any leakage from shock absorbers or anywhere in the car.
Ride quality is also fine.

Do you think there is a linkage between broken exhaust pipe and shock absorbers leaking?

[venkyhere]

Originally Posted by INJAXN

No, did not notice any leakage from shock absorbers or anywhere in the car.
Ride quality is also fine.

Do you think there is a linkage between broken exhaust pipe and shock absorbers leaking?

I was referring to the way the rear shock appears in your pics. There is no just caked up dust, but dust seems to have mixed with some fluid to form grime like substance on the shocker's outer shaft casing. Can also see something shiny as well.

[Bhatia.D17]

I own 2019 Sportz variant and wanted to have the boot lamp which is available only in the Asta variant. Has anyone tried it ?
My main concern- Is the wiring already present and I can purchase and install the part (Boot Lamp). Or I have to look for a workaround?

[adhisk]

I know this sounds terrible, but seeing this thread in the "new posts" made me remember our car in India! We have a 2015 Asta AT in Wine Red, and it has been sitting idly for a couple of months now. We're planning to go back to India in March (hopefully), and I want to get an oil change, a new battery, 3M full body detailing (interior + exterior +engine bay) and a tire rotation + alignment done. Is there anything else that is recommended? It should have about 10000 kilometers on it. Thanks in advance guys!

[promit]

I have a 2014 model 48k run example. Got it serviced a couple of days ago. The air conditioning had become very weak since a few months, and the compressor makes a whirring sound when it's on. I received a quote of 10k to replace the cooling coil (5k parts and 5k labour). Job appears to be very labour intensive and requires dismantling of the dashboard. Compressor I am told can run for the time being, cost of replacement is 18k. I have also had a slightly rattling steering rack since a few years now. Can be hear if you listen carefully in a very quiet place. Again, costs 10-12k to rectify but not necessary (Dealership's opinion). Some googling and youtube searches leads me to believe these failures are quite common in the Grand i10. Going to be do some more research and get the AC fixed / cooling coil changed.

Has anyone faced any of these issues, would love to hear your experiences ?

Thanks,
Promit

[hserus]

Originally Posted by promit

I have a 2014 model 48k run example. Got it serviced a couple of days ago. The air conditioning had become very weak since a few months, and the compressor makes a whirring sound when it's on. I received a quote of 10k to replace the cooling coil

First make sure the AC filter aka cabin air filter is clean and has been recently replaced. Dealer service often conveniently forgets this. Second, take the car to a specialist AC place for diagnosis and repair, your dealership is randomly throwing out ideas on what the problem could be without dismantling the dash and actually checking it. Not professional and just suited for billing maximisation

[fluidicjoy]

Originally Posted by ChoosetoCruze

As hserus has advised above, there are some parts & fluids in an automobile which need to be replaced after a time interval (not just by kms).

In your list above, if I were you, I would change all that has been recommended except transmission fluid unless Hyundai recommends changing it at the 7yr mark. Check your service manual for that.

Also, which engine belts are they referring to? If it’s the fan belt, that might make sense since it might be the original 7yr old belt & it may have developed cracks & loosened after all these years. If it’s the timing belt, I’m not sure it may need replacing on a 40,000kms run vehicle. But no matter what, stick to the guidance in your manual for the age of your vehicle.

Watch out for add on services sneaked into the labour charges.

Hyundai Kappa Engine does not have a Timing Belt, but has a Timing Chain. The Fan Belt runs along the Alternator, AC Compressor, Water Pump and the Crankshaft. The engine hardly has any underbody engine guard and I was advised to change my Fan Belt in 2 years for peace of mind since I noticed quite a few ripped fibres on the older belt. Here's a look at the schematics of the belt in discussion.