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| ![]() Looking forward to seek help from Baleno owners. We have recently shortlisted Baleno Alpha CVT, however during test drive, a small question arose...and apparently we have lined up MISL as well but to no conclusion. The query goes like this, In Baleno CVT there is a S mode on the lever and is active to use in D mode in order to have a sporty response (it does incrase the rpm of the vehicle). Similarly, it has L mode as well, that too increases the rpm of the vehicle (often used for overtaking purpose). Then what is the fun of S mode working in L. Is it just a gimmick or a flow to design? Looking forward for an answer n thanks in anticipation. |
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P.S I own a baleno delta automatic and find using D with S the best to get a move on. | |
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S mode is to be used on expressways, for example, where you can rev the engine to higher levels and enjoy the higher power up the rev band. | |
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Thanks for your prompt reply. As per the information gathered by myself through the service manual of Baleno, the function of S mode is explained as under.... "S mode control provdes for optimum driving with higher gear ratio that enables climbing with higher engine speed when going up a hill and light engine brake effect when descending a hill. S mode switch is momentary type and fitted on the select lever." and the L mode has been explained as.... "L Mode (Lock-up control) for engaging the lock-up clutch in the torque converter, shifting is controlled to eliminate slippage of the converter and increase transmission efficiency. In addition, slip control at lock-up clutch provides comfortable driving." My query: 1. If both are engaged what is the effect on engine? 2. As per the instruction manual S is working momentarily. If working momentarily, then shouldn't it disappear from the display pannel? Thanks. | |
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L mode engages at speeds only below 30 kmph(approx) and is best suited for inclines with load and co passengers and also on inclines with traffic where we need quick acceleration with minimal accelerator input (1-2 gear combination). We can directly shift back to D upon gaining speed. If D with sports mode to L: the S indicator will still be shown but I didn't observe any difference in the response and might be designed to keep the S mode retained upon shifting back to D from L S mode will be disengaged only upon pressing the button again and restarting (is it what they might have meant by the word momentarily?) the engine. -- Aniruddh | |
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Thanks Aniruddh. That's the point, why doesn't the S goes off from the display when we turn the action lever from D to L. Going by your verses, if there is no significant response from the engine when both L & S are in action, S should practically go off. Guess there is a flaw in the mechanism of Baleno CVT. Still in a misconception regarding making a correct decision, CVT or manual? | |
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Normal city driving- use "D" mode Highway driving,single carriageway- D mode, use S mode when overtaking Highway driving, dual carriage way- D mode mostly. Use "s" on winding stretches. L- hills L+S mode- use in hills for steep turns or when you have come to stand still on incline. | |
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The engine is usually at a relaxed 1300 rpm at 80kph. To overtake(downshifting), there are two options 1> push down the accelerator pedal considerably and it will increase the ratio and thus the rpm to almost 2200 rpm, good enough for a normal overtake 2> engage the sports mode and it will bump the engine speed directly to 3200rpm approx by which the engine doesn't exactly turn into a beast, but it retains the ratio at the maximum torque levels by which the overtakes are brisker than what I could get in a manual by downshifting. I would suggest you to take a longish test drive of the CVT and take an appropriate descision. | |
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@sathish81 : Guess ur mode of usage of CVT is the most optimal in comparison to one explained by the SA@NEXA...! @koolguy_ani : I guess I again need to take the demo CVT for a long spin before making a final call. Else making a decision in haste I would again have to re-iterate my decision and again the waiting time would extend by 4-6 weeks even for petrol which is again something I don't go well with. | ||
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This new gen Figo looks gorgeous in white, has loads of space, rides and handles well, comes with powerful engine and better gearbox in the segment. Though interiors are bland, lacks features like Touchscreen, reverse parking camera, keyless entry etc I can live without them. | |||||||
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| ![]() I got the 5th year extended warranty for my 2016 Baleno Zeta CVT during the weekend. Cost - Rs 5910/- |
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I can count on my fingers the number of times i used "L" specifically over the last 8 years. In most cases, D or S would suffice. Suzuki's CVT also has good manual braking. So downhills are not a problem like Torque Converters. I'm very happy with the ride quality and the even the responsiveness of this CVT in normal aggressive city driving.You would need to slightly change your driving habits - will happen in a week. Yes, it's no DSG in responsiveness, but makes up for it in smoothness and hopefully in reliability (in all likelihood..given its a tried and tested JATCO CVT) Quote:
The brake hiss is abnormal. Do get it checked ASAP. The suspension should be new, given that I have new ones and I took delivery in mid-October. I'm 100% sure the ride harshness is due to high tyre pressure. I put 30 psi all around, and couldn't be happier with the ride quality. Last edited by Jaggu : 5th February 2018 at 16:06. Reason: Back to back posts, please use Multi Quote [Quote+] instead. Thanks. | ||
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The Service centers tried their best but were not able to eliminate it completely. It appears from time to time now, especially after it is driven on wet surfaces. | |
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Since you posted this, I took the car for a wash. I am hearing all sort of noises from the brakes since the wash. The source is the rear drums. I am able to isolate it since the noise has turned into ‘sshhhh’ sound from the ‘hiss’ when the brakes are wet. I also observe the rear wheels are locking up whenever I brake on a loose surface, but the front wheels arent. Perhaps the rear shoes needs some adjusting, or it requires more wear for an even braking. Since the brakes do not lack power, I thought will wait and complain during the first service. |
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