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Old 16th January 2020, 13:21   #4141
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Re: Ford Endeavour : Official Review

How about this modification on the Endeavour. It got the bonnet scoop, Raptor grill, Black rhino alloys, extra wide tyres etc.
I love the single row curved led bar which fits exactly in the grove.

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Old 16th January 2020, 14:49   #4142
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How about this modification on the Endeavour.
A little overdone Ruzbeh. I feel it would be better with a couple of sizes less width on the tyres and definitely much better without the Black Rhino writing and decals on the sides.

A solid black colour on the complete truck with slimmer tyres would kill it.

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Old 16th January 2020, 15:05   #4143
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Close to new year eve while returning from Kerala, just about 10kms to Attibele border to Bangalore, error started popping to take the vehicle to service. My brother was driving the car and he referred to the manual which suggested it is a drive train error. The vehicle has done about 38,000 kms by now. He then calls me and when i asked him if there were any issues with the vehicle otherwise? he replied in the negative. Told him to keep an eye out and slowly drive the endeavour to HSR where our house is which is about 20 kms in total. Error used to pop up every 2-3 kms and then disappear.

Next day vehicle was taken to JSP ford at haralur road and the SA suspected a software issue, but then he requested for some time for a complete scan, upgrade of all modules etc to get back to us. As usual the servers at Ford factory was blamed for the long wait to work on the upgrade and scan. Anyhow SA called up next day and informed that error persisted even after all the software checks and by evening called up and said it is the EGR sensor that was the issue. Part was not available and it would take 4-5 days, but the car can be used without any issues. Since we were again out of town, we decided to leave the vehicle at the service itself. Thankfully part arrived on the 3rd day and was replaced under warranty.

So at close to 4 years and 38k kms that was the first major issue that cropped up with our Ford.

Takeaways: 1- do get the extended warranty cover. It is really useful. 2- Owners manual may not be accurate with error description. ps i need to cross-check where he noticed the stuff inside the manual. I don't remember seeing it.
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Old 16th January 2020, 15:23   #4144
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Anyhow SA called up next day and informed that error persisted even after all the software checks and by evening called up and said it is the EGR sensor that was the issue. Part was not available and it would take 4-5 days, but the car can be used without any issues.

So at close to 4 years and 38k kms that was the first major issue that cropped up with our Ford.

Had spoken to a SA some time back and he said that the EGR sensor failure is common and happened around 40k kilometres running.

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As usual the servers at Ford factory was blamed for the long wait to work on the upgrade and scan.
That's weird since only the SYNC3 update takes unusually long due to the hotspot / internet speed and Ford server speed issue, rest scanning and updates to all other modules are all done via offline software.
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Anyhow SA called up next day and informed that error persisted even after all the software checks and by evening called up and said it is the EGR sensor that was the issue.
Can you check if it was the EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) sensor since I don't think EGR would have any separate replaceable sensor.
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Old 16th January 2020, 16:11   #4146
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That's weird since only the SYNC3 update takes unusually long due to the hotspot / internet speed and Ford server speed issue, rest scanning and updates to all other modules are all done via offline software.
He said for checking updates the comp has to connect to servers. Also even the Sync was to be updated.

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Can you check if it was the EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) sensor since I don't think EGR would have any separate replaceable sensor.
This time i was not involved since i was on travel during the period, and being a warranty repair did not have any bills. I will message the SA and update.
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Can you check if it was the EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) sensor since I don't think EGR would have any separate replaceable sensor.
He responded back, it is EGR sensor and it sits on the EGR assembly.
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Old 16th January 2020, 19:19   #4148
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How much this sensor will cost if the car is out of warranty?
I am about to reach my 3rd warranty end.

I am not willing to extend as I never faced any issue.

But previous few posts forced me to rethink.
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As per the Ford India bulletin, they have stopped the following colors for the Endeavour from Jan.2020 - Grey, silver and red.
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You took the perfect step. While it will not accomplish anything real, let them commit this BS on paper, then we can escalate with screenshots to Ford regarding the sheer nonsense disseminated not just by ASCs, but also customer care
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Now coming to the topic, It will be a good idea to stick with the manufacturer as they will know best. Certain updates might be valid only for say a newer spec variant or maybe to address a specific problem on a particular series of VIN due to some compatibility issues or otherwise. I know, we all love our electronics with all the latest software and updates and many a time even feel differently, like many owners have experienced better gear changes and some other stuff.

Maybe they had problems on some vehicles after applying updates and are now doing on need basis. Some of the manufacturers have a VIN specific update, like BMW. When you send your car for service, it will get updated with anything applicable on VIN as the diagnostic equipment is always connected to BMW servers
Even i felt that forcing manufacturer to do something which they are not confident of is not worth it. However in this case, i wanted to know whether A.S.S is lazy to do or what they were telling is actually true.

I received a call from ford india on this, after having a discussion with their internal team they decided to do the updates and asked me to get the vehicle for which an appointment was fixed next week, apparently a technician who is trained and specialist in ecu updates will be available


Now i feel that, dealer was reluctant to do the updates, when I raised the issue with customer care the executive contacted the dealer who told her the same reason the techincian have told me. However when I gently asked her to put the same in mail, she decided its better to check with the internal team. So much for “updates”
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Old 17th January 2020, 00:52   #4151
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How much this sensor will cost if the car is out of warranty?
I am about to reach my 3rd warranty end.

I am not willing to extend .
One of the sensors, don’t remember exactly was problematic on our brand new car. They changed two of these from demo car and the error went. So, I am not sure if age is the only criteria. But coming to your question, getting additional warranty on such expensive vehicles is absolutely recommended. You must get. Think it more like an insurance.
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Latest updates of PCM and TCM as received from a friend.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 12:29   #4153
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My Endeavour did 39k so far, and seems needs tyre replacement
The tyres are good for another 10-15k if we see the tread depth.

However, one of the tyre is causing too much trouble, getting leak (not punctured) from different places every now and then.

Now my questions is:
I need to change them, however if we see the costing, there is a huge gap.
Same MRF will cost 12k per tyre i.e. 48k in total
However, with other brands its 19k onwards, usually around 22k

And when I asked them about running life, everyone says around 50k.

My 95% usage is Delhi NCR (tarmac + potholes), and rarely I go for off-roading.

I am confused, now why to invest more for same thing.
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Now my questions is:
I need to change them, however if we see the costing, there is a huge gap.
Same MRF will cost 12k per tyre i.e. 48k in total
However, with other brands its 19k onwards, usually around 22k

I am confused, now why to invest more for same thing.
I have got Yokohama Geolander for about 14K a piece and are good. Car rides slightly better than MRF and looks sweet.
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I have got Yokohama Geolander for about 14K a piece and are good. Car rides slightly better than MRF and looks sweet.
Same size or different one?
If possible, please tell me complete name/model and size, probably a link as well
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