Fiat 1100 Club - Bangalore [FCB]

Karthik1100 · 4th October 2009, 12:47

steering, meter console, logo says its a pre 1990 model.

arun1100 · 4th October 2009, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Karthik1100

steering, meter console, logo says its a pre 1990 model.

Fiat 1100 R or Rinnovata was a model of late 60s or early 70s.

Karl- Can you confirm the above.. And, were they produced in India in min numbers or only imported?

karlosdeville · 4th October 2009, 16:35

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Originally Posted by arun1100

Fiat 1100 R or Rinnovata was a model of late 60s or early 70s.

Karl- Can you confirm the above.. And, were they produced in India in min numbers or only imported?

The 1100R was introduced in 66 I think, being produced only for 2 years or so. It was never produced in India, though many came into India as imports.

Sujith1100 · 7th October 2009, 20:29

In your busy discussion I guess no one noticed my post about the RALLY meet.
I have proposed 8th November 2009, Sunday for the Rally.
Founder members meeting this Sunday on 11th OCT '09.
Arun1100 please fix up a TIME and VENUE for the meeting to discuss about the upcoming RALLY.

arun1100 · 7th October 2009, 20:37

Lets meet up for lunch this Sunday 11-10-09. And then discuss about the rally. Let Karthik decide the place.

funkykar · 7th October 2009, 20:43

Karthik1100 proposed Sunday evening. I dont mind lunch or evening meet. Just finalize the time. Lets finalize on the rally. To avoid distraction

, I suggest not to get our Fiats (I know its difficult). Most of the times, we get absorbed by the cars and talk less about forthcoming events.

funkykar · 7th October 2009, 21:45

I was in a mad hunt to find old Fiat pics of rallies. Here is a nostalgic rally thread (yesteryear rallys where Fiats and Amby’s dominated). I really loved it a lot. Full credit to my present Rally friend Raghuram (a well know K1000 Esteem driver), also a TBHPian (raghuram.cg), who in an instant got me acquainted with this thread. I personally suggest you to sit back, relax and real this thread. No point reading it in a hurry.

Niaz's Motor-Racing / Motor rallying Memories : Rally Blog | Rally India - The Home of Indian Rallying

amit V8 · 7th October 2009, 23:58

i have seen these pictures before. the ambys and fiats took rallying to a different league.

Karthik1100 · 8th October 2009, 14:07

yes, i had proposed sunday evening. and rescheduled it as per the convenience of kedarnath. he said anytime in the day till evening. we all ready to meet up at 12.30 and waiting for sujith's reply

arun1100 · 15th October 2009, 20:40

Behram Sir,
Can you please answer these questions.. The Information needed is for "Normal" people to know more about Fiats and their racing history. This Information will be displayed in an upcoming event for public to read.

1. What is the Advantage of FR Layout of Fiat 1100? We do not see in modern day’s passenger car other than Mercedes, BMW and Some High performance Sports cars. Why?

2. Does Fiat 1100 have Monocoque (Unibody Chassis)? What is the Advantage of this kind of Chassis? We do not see in modern day’s passenger car other than Some High performance Sports cars. Why?

3. What Kind of Carburettor did Fiat 1100 generally have? What is the advantage of this kind of carburettor over modern days Fuel Injectors?

4. Fiat 1100 cars doesn’t have Power Steering but still it feels lighter than many modern days car with power steering, why?

5. What kind of Suspension system Fiat 1100 has? This doesn’t let you feel the bumps and pits, where as in modern passenger cars you can easily hit the car roof with your head.

6. Fiat 1100 D Cars look heavy but weighs Just 895kgs with 1089cc, No other passenger cars in the same segment weighs below 1050kgs. What is the Advantage being lighter?

7. Most of the Fiat 1100 series cars came with Column Shift Gear. Are there any advantages over Floor Shifter?

8. Most of the Modern Day’s passenger car claims, they are the best in fuel efficiency by having MPFI, Micro Processors, sensors, advanced engine technology, fully aluminum engine block, though they are getting on average fuel efficiency of 13-15kmpl in city and 17-21kmpl in highway, but Fiat 1100 series has all old technology but still it manages to give 11-14kmpl in city and 14-19kmpl in highway. What is the Reason Behind it?

9. Cost of ownership is less, service is cheaper, and parts are also cheaper Comparing to any modern car. Why manufacturers of the car stopped producing it?

10. We have heard fiat 1100 cars are always safer than any modern passenger car in India. Rate of death and serious injuries due to road accidents are less in fiat 1100 series. Is this True?? If true, what made this car so safer than other modern cars?

11. Sir, Please give the details of engine specs used by you in cars like 43 and 3433 during rallying.

12. I have read in many posts by you that you tried Really Hard to find a fault in the design of Fiat 1100 parts but found none. Some points on this too please.

Thanks,
Fiat 1100 Club-Bangalore Team

arun1100 · 15th October 2009, 21:05

Behram Sir, I am also waiting for the pictures of your cars.. 43 and 3433...

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 16th October 2009, 08:40

Dear Arun - yesterday the photographs did not download for some odd reason so I am sending again. I'll try and answer all your questions during the course of the day today.

Photograph no 1 is MMF3433 in 1982 with twin Solex carburettor setup. I still have the inlet manifold with me at home. Photograph no 2 is MMY43 in 1989 with piper camshaft and fully reinforced chassis / suspension (the same camshaft is now in my super select MRY3112). Photograph no 3 is MMY43 in 1989 on the way from Delhi to Mumbai after the Himalayan Rally trip upto Simla and Narkhanda via the dreaded Jalori pass. Your good friend Cyrus43 was one and a half years old and he was in the car from Delhi to Mumbai. This photograph is taken near Nasik. Photograph no 4 is MMF3433 with me in it after winning the MASA rally in 1984. The building in the background is the main building of The Premier Automobiles Ltd where I used to work as an engineer in R&D at that time.

I sold MMY43 in 1993. I am still missing it.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

arun1100 · 17th October 2009, 09:37

Great News!!

Fiat 1100 Club-Bangalore has got an opportunity to Showcase their Exotic Italian Cars' in the event "The Kingfisher Great Indian October Fest 2009". The event is held on 23rd, 24th and 25th of October 2009 in Palace Grounds Bangalore.

Timing is On 23th - 4pm to 10pm

24th - 2pm to 10pm

25th - 2pm to 10pm

Details of the event can be found in the website The Kingfisher Great Indian October Fest 2009: Auto

Link of our Club Website:
FIAT 1100 CLUB, Bangalore - In the News

Contact the Club Moderators for more assistance:-
Arun-9740092566
Karthik M.B-9845732360
Sujith-9663874939

Sidman · 18th October 2009, 20:17

Looks like you might have a new member, guys! Today, my Lambrettful brother, Arun (not Arun1100) bought his first car, a 1970 Fiat 1100D! Arun is a member here, but has been too busy to post, and requested me to put up the pics on his behalf, so we could get some insights from the Fiat Gurus! We want to bring this car back to original condition, with a few tasteful additions to make it more of a pleasure to drive, and highly reliable. No major mods here. Neither of us is very knowledgeable about cars, as our main passion was classic scooters. However, it does look like a largely original car, has the original grille, indicators, and 3 original hubcaps. I think the bootlid lock is a later addition, can anyone confirm? I also think the speedo and some stuff on the dash is not original. So here are some pics for the gurus....do let us know what is messed up / unoriginal on this car. If you want more pics, let me know which parts need to be photographed, and I'll provide you with more.

arun1100 · 18th October 2009, 20:55

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Originally Posted by Sidman

Looks like you might have a new member, guys! Today, my Lambrettful brother, Arun (not Arun1100) bought his first car, a 1970 Fiat 1100D! Arun is a member here, but has been too busy to post, and requested me to put up the pics on his behalf, so we could get some insights from the Fiat Gurus! We want to bring this car back to original condition, with a few tasteful additions to make it more of a pleasure to drive, and highly reliable. No major mods here. Neither of us is very knowledgeable about cars, as our main passion was classic scooters. However, it does look like a largely original car, has the original grille, indicators, and 3 original hubcaps. I think the bootlid lock is a later addition, can anyone confirm? I also think the speedo and some stuff on the dash is not original. So here are some pics for the gurus....do let us know what is messed up / unoriginal on this car. If you want more pics, let me know which parts need to be photographed, and I'll provide you with more.

Sidman You are welcome to the Friday's event. Free passes !!!

Congrats Arun from Arun

Super Delight here

Original Grill
Original Side indicators
Boot lid lock is original but the handle is after market i think
Wheel caps, never seen this design
Meter is original, few switches and the oil, amp meters are not original

Gurus confirm this please.

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4th October 2009, 12:47	#406
Karthik1100 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 668 Thanked: 704 Times View My Garage	steering, meter console, logo says its a pre 1990 model.
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7th October 2009, 20:29	#409
Sujith1100 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: BANGalore Posts: 729 Thanked: 21 Times	In your busy discussion I guess no one noticed my post about the RALLY meet. I have proposed 8th November 2009, Sunday for the Rally. Founder members meeting this Sunday on 11th OCT '09. Arun1100 please fix up a TIME and VENUE for the meeting to discuss about the upcoming RALLY. Last edited by Sujith1100 : 7th October 2009 at 20:30.
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7th October 2009, 20:37	#410
arun1100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,100 Thanked: 5,724 Times View My Garage	Lets meet up for lunch this Sunday 11-10-09. And then discuss about the rally. Let Karthik decide the place.
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7th October 2009, 20:43	#411
funkykar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,646 Thanked: 6,681 Times View My Garage	Karthik1100 proposed Sunday evening. I dont mind lunch or evening meet. Just finalize the time. Lets finalize on the rally. To avoid distraction , I suggest not to get our Fiats (I know its difficult). Most of the times, we get absorbed by the cars and talk less about forthcoming events.
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7th October 2009, 21:45	#412
funkykar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,646 Thanked: 6,681 Times View My Garage	I was in a mad hunt to find old Fiat pics of rallies. Here is a nostalgic rally thread (yesteryear rallys where Fiats and Amby’s dominated). I really loved it a lot. Full credit to my present Rally friend Raghuram (a well know K1000 Esteem driver), also a TBHPian (raghuram.cg), who in an instant got me acquainted with this thread. I personally suggest you to sit back, relax and real this thread. No point reading it in a hurry. Niaz's Motor-Racing / Motor rallying Memories : Rally Blog \| Rally India - The Home of Indian Rallying Last edited by funkykar : 7th October 2009 at 21:47.
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7th October 2009, 23:58	#413
amit V8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: kolkata Posts: 1,070 Thanked: 217 Times	i have seen these pictures before. the ambys and fiats took rallying to a different league.
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8th October 2009, 14:07	#414
Karthik1100 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 668 Thanked: 704 Times View My Garage	yes, i had proposed sunday evening. and rescheduled it as per the convenience of kedarnath. he said anytime in the day till evening. we all ready to meet up at 12.30 and waiting for sujith's reply
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15th October 2009, 20:40	#415
arun1100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,100 Thanked: 5,724 Times View My Garage	Information On Fiat 1100. Behram Sir, Can you please answer these questions.. The Information needed is for "Normal" people to know more about Fiats and their racing history. This Information will be displayed in an upcoming event for public to read. 1. What is the Advantage of FR Layout of Fiat 1100? We do not see in modern day’s passenger car other than Mercedes, BMW and Some High performance Sports cars. Why? 2. Does Fiat 1100 have Monocoque (Unibody Chassis)? What is the Advantage of this kind of Chassis? We do not see in modern day’s passenger car other than Some High performance Sports cars. Why? 3. What Kind of Carburettor did Fiat 1100 generally have? What is the advantage of this kind of carburettor over modern days Fuel Injectors? 4. Fiat 1100 cars doesn’t have Power Steering but still it feels lighter than many modern days car with power steering, why? 5. What kind of Suspension system Fiat 1100 has? This doesn’t let you feel the bumps and pits, where as in modern passenger cars you can easily hit the car roof with your head. 6. Fiat 1100 D Cars look heavy but weighs Just 895kgs with 1089cc, No other passenger cars in the same segment weighs below 1050kgs. What is the Advantage being lighter? 7. Most of the Fiat 1100 series cars came with Column Shift Gear. Are there any advantages over Floor Shifter? 8. Most of the Modern Day’s passenger car claims, they are the best in fuel efficiency by having MPFI, Micro Processors, sensors, advanced engine technology, fully aluminum engine block, though they are getting on average fuel efficiency of 13-15kmpl in city and 17-21kmpl in highway, but Fiat 1100 series has all old technology but still it manages to give 11-14kmpl in city and 14-19kmpl in highway. What is the Reason Behind it? 9. Cost of ownership is less, service is cheaper, and parts are also cheaper Comparing to any modern car. Why manufacturers of the car stopped producing it? 10. We have heard fiat 1100 cars are always safer than any modern passenger car in India. Rate of death and serious injuries due to road accidents are less in fiat 1100 series. Is this True?? If true, what made this car so safer than other modern cars? 11. Sir, Please give the details of engine specs used by you in cars like 43 and 3433 during rallying. 12. I have read in many posts by you that you tried Really Hard to find a fault in the design of Fiat 1100 parts but found none. Some points on this too please. Thanks, Fiat 1100 Club-Bangalore Team
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15th October 2009, 21:05	#416
arun1100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,100 Thanked: 5,724 Times View My Garage	Behram Sir, I am also waiting for the pictures of your cars.. 43 and 3433...
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16th October 2009, 08:40	#417
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,384 Times	Dear Arun - yesterday the photographs did not download for some odd reason so I am sending again. I'll try and answer all your questions during the course of the day today. Photograph no 1 is MMF3433 in 1982 with twin Solex carburettor setup. I still have the inlet manifold with me at home. Photograph no 2 is MMY43 in 1989 with piper camshaft and fully reinforced chassis / suspension (the same camshaft is now in my super select MRY3112). Photograph no 3 is MMY43 in 1989 on the way from Delhi to Mumbai after the Himalayan Rally trip upto Simla and Narkhanda via the dreaded Jalori pass. Your good friend Cyrus43 was one and a half years old and he was in the car from Delhi to Mumbai. This photograph is taken near Nasik. Photograph no 4 is MMF3433 with me in it after winning the MASA rally in 1984. The building in the background is the main building of The Premier Automobiles Ltd where I used to work as an engineer in R&D at that time. I sold MMY43 in 1993. I am still missing it. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar Attached Thumbnails Last edited by DHABHAR.BEHRAM : 16th October 2009 at 08:57.
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17th October 2009, 09:37	#418
arun1100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,100 Thanked: 5,724 Times View My Garage	The Great Indian October Fest 2009 Great News!! Fiat 1100 Club-Bangalore has got an opportunity to Showcase their Exotic Italian Cars' in the event "The Kingfisher Great Indian October Fest 2009". The event is held on 23rd, 24th and 25th of October 2009 in Palace Grounds Bangalore. Timing is On 23th - 4pm to 10pm 24th - 2pm to 10pm 25th - 2pm to 10pm Details of the event can be found in the website The Kingfisher Great Indian October Fest 2009: Auto Link of our Club Website: FIAT 1100 CLUB, Bangalore - In the News Contact the Club Moderators for more assistance:- Arun-9740092566 Karthik M.B-9845732360 Sujith-9663874939 Last edited by arun1100 : 17th October 2009 at 09:38.
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18th October 2009, 20:17	#419
Sidman BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 416 Thanked: 28 Times View My Garage	1970 1100d Looks like you might have a new member, guys! Today, my Lambrettful brother, Arun (not Arun1100) bought his first car, a 1970 Fiat 1100D! Arun is a member here, but has been too busy to post, and requested me to put up the pics on his behalf, so we could get some insights from the Fiat Gurus! We want to bring this car back to original condition, with a few tasteful additions to make it more of a pleasure to drive, and highly reliable. No major mods here. Neither of us is very knowledgeable about cars, as our main passion was classic scooters. However, it does look like a largely original car, has the original grille, indicators, and 3 original hubcaps. I think the bootlid lock is a later addition, can anyone confirm? I also think the speedo and some stuff on the dash is not original. So here are some pics for the gurus....do let us know what is messed up / unoriginal on this car. If you want more pics, let me know which parts need to be photographed, and I'll provide you with more. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images
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