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Originally Posted by IndigoXLGrandDi The Owner's Manual of our Xylo E8 ABS recommends to Replace Engine Oil (and Oil Filter) every 15000 kms.
I replace the Engine Oil every 10000 kms from Start till date. The car has run 276K+ kms without Engine Overhaul from Nov. 2009. Touchwood. I did not replace Engine Oil at 1000 km mark though.
If I am not wrong, some years ago M&M introduced Maximile FEO (Mineral Grade) Engine Oil and recommended to replace this oil every 20000 kms (Bhpian pcpranav informed me about this).
The Owner's Manual of our Elite i20 CRDi Asta Mar. 2015 recommends to replace Engine Oil (and Oil Filter) every 10000 kms.
Can Experts please explain as to why there is such a Vast difference in the Drain Interval of Nov. 2009 BSIII Xylo and Mar. 2015 BSIV Elite i20 Diesel inspite of BS Emission improvement in i20?
AFAIK, the Drain Interval should have increased with Improvement in Technology.
Tell me reasons other than 'The Fuel Quality (Sulphur Content in Diesel) in India Affects the Drain Interval'.
I hate using Dealer provided Lubes unless its Sealed by the Car Manufacturer itself.
I don't know about others but M&M supplies Lubes to its Authorised Dealers and Service Centres in separate Packing (Cans). When our Xylo was under warranty, I used those lubes. But for i20 I used the lube provided by Hyundai dealer only during 2nd service at 10000 kms. After that I started using my own lubes from 3rd Service (I did not carry out any service at Dealer or HASS after 3rd service at 20000 kms. EDIT:-
Currently I am using Shell Helix HX5 Diesel CH4 15W40 for our Xylo and i20. |
The drain period of an engine is driven by a multiplicity of factors.
The fact that one is a Euro III compliant engine and the other is a Euro IV has very little to do with the drain period.
Some of the important factors that drive the drain period of an engine would be following:
1. Engine sump size
2. Compression ratio
3. Whether or not an engine is turbo charges/CRDI engines
4. Clearances/tolerances of an engine
5. Other OEM considerations
6. The API specs of the recommended oil
Typically North American/Korean/Japanese cars have 50% sump capacity as that of a similar cubic capacity engine coming from Europe (as you would probably know that additives help protect the engine from the combustion by products and are depleted in the process). This affects the amount of additives that are present in the oil sump and thereby the ability of the engine oil to protect your engine (by this corollary engine oil in an European engine would last almost twice as long as compared to that in an North American/Japanese/Korean engine).
An engine with a higher compression ratio would tend to run hotter and therefore will oxidise the engine oil faster thus shorter drain.
Turbo charged engines also tend to run hot as compared to a similar sized naturally aspirated engine (air is injected into the combustion chamber at higher than the atmospheric pressure) and this also affects the oil life adversely. Common Rail Direct Injection engines also run hotter as the diesel is injected at over 40,000 psi so these engines will have a shorter drain as well.
Engines with tighter tolerances & clearances do not have appetite for combustion by products and other contaminants that are produced in a typical diesel engine and therefore the OEM will recommend a shorter drain period that will ensure that these contaminants are drained out well before they attain a critical mass/size to affect the engine life adversely.
There are other OEM design considerations that would dictate the drain interval of an engine as well.
Lastly if an OEM recommends an obsolete API spec (this is quite rare now a days) then the drain period will be shorter.
Bottom-line; think of the oil change as cheap insurance; would you rather spend a few thousand rupees extra on an additional oil change in a given year or a couple of lacs on a new engine.
Please remember amount of money that you would end up spending on an oil change would constitute a minuscule percentage of what you spend on diesel in a given year.
Yes the relatively high sulphur content on top of other impurities in diesel that is sold in India definitely is a problem that would deplete the TBN (total base number) of the diesel engine oil faster but this factor would be common for both i20 & Xylo.
An interesting fact, diesel that is sold in India contains 350 ppm (parts per million) of sulphur whereas diesel that is sold here contains 15 ppm so Indian fuel retailing companies have some serious catching up to do.
The oil that you’re using currently is an excellent product so no worries on that front however I must mention here that the current API spec for diesel engine oils is CJ-4 ( currently transitioning to CK-4/FA-4 effective December 1st, 2016).
On a personal note both my SUVs (petrol) have been run on full synthetic from day 1 and I never exceed 6,500 kms between oil changes (okay where I live the temperatures range between -35 C in winter to 30 C in summer but I would do the same if I lived in India) whatever the OEM may say.
A few years when I was looking after the consumer markets here in Canada and GM was one of my clients (in addition to Ferrari, Chrysler, Suzuki & Mercedes Benz) we had a large number of Cadillacs reporting to dealerships across the country with half the oil in their sumps gone. It turned out that the oil life monitor that the GM had programmed when these cars left the plant was not going off till 30,000 kms in some cases. GM had to issue a recall and reprogram the oil life monitors post this fiasco.
Lesson; change your oil sooner than later; given the dusty conditions on top of other adverse driving conditions in India I would recommend changing oil sooner than whatever the OEM recommends to ensure longevity of your engine.
Hope this helps.