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Originally Posted by amitk26

Got a call that Vehicle is ready for delivery ( VX-MT Petrol) so will go and give cheque tomorrow. Dealer insists that invoicing can be done only after 4 days of cheque payment but local cheques get cleared in max 2 days so does it sound normal ? RTGS transfer is another option but I think cheque payment should be better/safer. What do you guys suggest.

IMO, RTGS is just as safe. Just collect the receipt from the dealership with the car papers, that's all. That's what I did.

[navkant]

Guys, please help. Its urgent. I went to the Sundaram Honda showroom at Visakhapatnam. I wanted to book the Urban Titanium EMT model but the sales guy is saying only 3 colors White, Black & Silver is available in EMT model. Is it true?

[sugato_basu]

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[Papa Blaze]

Originally Posted by ambadan

Wow. Excellent review. I am sure this will be a winner. Honda removed the tag "no diesel car" with an excellent product. production capacity may be an issue as the demand may be much larger than supply. I have read that Honda is planning another plant in India.

Yup. The new plant at Tapukara will soon be ready and according to the Logistics Head for Honda Cars the Japanese have decided India as the hub for diesel cars.
The Honda city is in line and from what I could gather the production would take place in India
Some good developments for the country are in store!!

[anonymous]

Originally Posted by navkant

Guys, please help. Its urgent. I went to the Sundaram Honda showroom at Visakhapatnam. I wanted to book the Urban Titanium EMT model but the sales guy is saying only 3 colors White, Black & Silver is available in EMT model. Is it true?

Yes. there are only 3 choices in the base E Model. I also had to opt for silver.

[navkant]

Originally Posted by anonymous

Yes. there are only 3 choices in the base E Model. I also had to opt for silver.

Thanks a ton. I am also booking the Silver Amaze. Around 3 months waiting here for the Petrol variant. Diesel is 4 months ..

[sunilg33]

Originally Posted by navkant

Guys, please help. Its urgent. I went to the Sundaram Honda showroom at Visakhapatnam. I wanted to book the Urban Titanium EMT model but the sales guy is saying only 3 colors White, Black & Silver is available in EMT model. Is it true?

If you go for EX MT you will get additional blue colour. Only from S variant onwards you get all the colours.

[rajshenoy]

I am wondering what kind of impact will amaze see once ecosport hits the road. I am sure there are many like me waiting to see the prices and compare the two and if ford does price aggressively then i strongly feel the waiting time for amaze will reduce considerably

Good time for a customer

[supremeBaleno]

I doubt the EcoSport will have any impact on the Amaze for various reasons.

1) Ford will likely price it alongside the Duster, which it sees as a peer. The Duster on the other hand is seen by the market as being priced high (after the recent hikes), but is still selling due to the TINA factor.

2) General opinion from folks who have seen the EcoSport up close at the roadshow is not good. They don't see it alongside the Duster (contrary to what Ford thinks) which is considered better. So read with point-1, it does not look that great for the EcoSport. Unless Ford prices it really aggressively, based on learnings from their new Fiesta disaster pricing.

To take your case itself, your short-list does not have the Duster, which is quite a packet costlier than your current options - the Amaze_D and Ertiga_D. So if EcoSport is priced alongside the Duster, it is not in the reckoning anymore.

[dZired]

Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

I doubt the EcoSport will have any impact on the Amaze for various reasons.

1) Ford will likely price it alongside the Duster, which it sees as a peer. The Duster on the other hand is seen by the market as being priced high (after the recent hikes), but is still selling due to the TINA factor.

Sorry if I sound stupid, but I fail to understand why would Ford price the Ecosport close to Duster. After all, Ecosport enjoys the under 4 meter excise benefit which the Duster doesn't.

[MuzzledMoose]

Originally Posted by dZired

Sorry if I sound stupid, but I fail to understand why would Ford price the Ecosport close to Duster. After all, Ecosport enjoys the under 4 meter excise benefit which the Duster doesn't.

Ford was greedy with fiesta. There's every chance that ford will repeat its mistake as they export it more than selling locally.

[supremeBaleno]

Originally Posted by dZired

Sorry if I sound stupid, but I fail to understand why would Ford price the Ecosport close to Duster. After all, Ecosport enjoys the under 4 meter excise benefit which the Duster doesn't.

Getting the excise benefit is one thing. Passing it on to the customer is another. I am not saying Ford will not pass it on, but IIRC there have been manufacturers who did not pass it on for a car/model that sold well and was in huge demand.

[pamishra]

Well, this happened to my brother-in-law's brand new Honda Amaze:

On 6th June, my BIL got delivery of his VX diesel urban titanium Honda Amaze in Mumbai. It ran very well and was fun to drive on Day 1. However on 7th evening, he tanked up diesel and within a few kms on the drive, the car started showing signs of power loss and the engine stopped. Even on repeated attempts the car failed to start. My BIL called up the Honda showroom and they in turn asked him to call the customer care. The customer care noted his complain and they send their person to inspect the car. He took around 90 min to come and thats understandable on a Friday evening mumbai traffic. Even that guy failed to diagnose the problem and could not start the car. Eventually after many hours of failed attempt, the car had to be towed to their workshop. The worst part is that even by Saturday afternoon they were unable to find the cause of the problem. Since the diesel had just been topped, the diesel quality was the most evident looking problem, but till now the Honda guys have not confirmed that...so looks like it is some other serious problem and the diesel topping timing was just a coincidence.

Sad that a car had to be towed away just on its second day :( Well my BIL had gone for the Honda keeping the Honda quality in mind, alas...

Will update you guys as i get more info.

[Mitzoomer]

Originally Posted by pamishra

Well, this happened to my brother-in-law's brand new Honda Amaze:

On 6th June, my BIL got delivery of his VX diesel urban titanium Honda Amaze in Mumbai. It ran very well and was fun to drive on Day 1. However on 7th evening, he tanked up diesel and within a few kms on the drive, the car started showing signs of power loss and the engine stopped. Even on repeated attempts the car failed to start. My BIL called up the Honda showroom and they in turn asked him to call the customer care. The customer care noted his complain and they send their person to inspect the car. He took around 90 min to come and thats understandable on a Friday evening mumbai traffic. Even that guy failed to diagnose the problem and could not start the car. Eventually after many hours of failed attempt, the car had to be towed to their workshop. The worst part is that even by Saturday afternoon they were unable to find the cause of the problem. Since the diesel had just been topped, the diesel quality was the most evident looking problem, but till now the Honda guys have not confirmed that...so looks like it is some other serious problem and the diesel topping timing was just a coincidence.

Sad that a car had to be towed away just on its second day :( Well my BIL had gone for the Honda keeping the Honda quality in mind, alas...

Will update you guys as i get more info.

Sorry to hear this....Hope not a big technical snag, otherwise a big blow to Honda... Considering the Mumbai rains currently, Honda will have to think faster and act even faster.

[rajshenoy]

Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

I doubt the EcoSport will have any impact on the Amaze for various reasons.

1) Ford will likely price it alongside the Duster, which it sees as a peer. The Duster on the other hand is seen by the market as being priced high (after the recent hikes), but is still selling due to the TINA factor.

2) General opinion from folks who have seen the EcoSport up close at the roadshow is not good. They don't see it alongside the Duster (contrary to what Ford thinks) which is considered better. So read with point-1, it does not look that great for the EcoSport. Unless Ford prices it really aggressively, based on learnings from their new Fiesta disaster pricing.

To take your case itself, your short-list does not have the Duster, which is quite a packet costlier than your current options - the Amaze_D and Ertiga_D. So if EcoSport is priced alongside the Duster, it is not in the reckoning anymore.

Looking at the prices of Duster and Amaze in Bangalore, i have to agree with you. Duster bare bone RxE sells for 10.5L+ and the Amaze top end sells around 9.5L. If i have to consider Duster with ABS and other must have goodies, that price crosses 13 lakh. So that is a margin of close to 4 lakhs.

So sadly i must admit, Ford might decide to under cut duster by 50K or so to bring VFM equation. So in which case the base EcoSport diesel will still be around 10L+

Honda has played it very smart by throwing in goodies like ABS in base variants and making S MT appear VFM by giving music system and steering mounted controls etc. Obviously, it feels like maruti could have priced the Dzire Vdi much cheaper or add some more goodies.

Originally Posted by pamishra

Well, this happened to my brother-in-law's brand new Honda Amaze:

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Sad that a car had to be towed away just on its second day :( Well my BIL had gone for the Honda keeping the Honda quality in mind, alas...

Will update you guys as i get more info.

Sad to hear this. Hope Diesel is the culprit and nothing else. Nobody likes their newly bought car to be towed away to showroom. Was the diesel filled from a reputed pump ?