[harish]

Originally Posted by azhagan

I think we single-handedly depleted the stock of Tiguan Allspaces in the country.

Amazing! My AllSpace also came from VW Tirunelveli as Ramani couldn't source/have a black one in Coimbatore. Welcome to the club!

[Lowflyer23]

Glad to see a vehicle which deserves a lot more sales and recognition is finally getting it. It might be through us enthusiasts but again you can't expect much from people who don't even look at any other vehicle except an overpriced BOF bouncy Toyota truck(no offense meant to anyone) at that price or even more.

The BOF SUVs IMO are an absolute requirement of very few people and other end up spending just for the road presence. The Allspace at discounted prices is a steal I believe, the quality, fit and finish and driving experience can easily rival cars costing twice as much.

[kalyan_hyd]

Originally Posted by n:CorE

Hey guys! Any word on the latest deals on the Tiguan AllSpace? VW Downtown in Mumbai would not go below 39.85L on-road + 3 year SVP (Corporate reg). I feel this price to be very high given this is technically a car that has been manufactured in 2019 (Imported in 2020).

Hi

I think a few of the BHPians have already replied but I also wanted to put a point across. If you haven't already gone ahead with another car, do check the ex-showroom that the dealer was offering your the Allspace at. Most of us have had ex-showroom at anything between 28 Lakhs to 31 Lakhs and the respective states Road tax added to this along-with Insurance and in some cases Handling/ Logistics/ Accessories charges, etc.

In Maharashtra, I am told there is an additional Road Tax on CBU cars and that's one reason Allspace and similar other cars stand out to be more expensive.

--Kalyan

Originally Posted by harish

Attaching pictures of our Deep Black Pearl AllSpace, I've been contemplating getting paint protection such as PPF for it but later it hit me. Now I'm thinking PPF under the handles, maybe bumpers alone and get it paint corrected/detailed every year. Do you guys have any recommendations?

Frankly speaking, this car does not need any additional treatments. Yes, there can be occasional scratches that PPF can prevent but not too much of a difference. I do recommend something called the essentials pack which is the front bumper, ORVMs, under the door handles, etc as a highway drive tends to make cleaning these parts difficult. You don't want to scratch the car while cleaning it.

--Kalyan

Originally Posted by n:CorE

To all the Tiguan owners, did you guys ever consider the Jeep Compass, if yes, how does it stack up? Especially now after the launch of the facelifted version.

Regards,
Akash

Hi Akash

I had Compass as one of the contenders but I did not like the drive on the Diesel 4X4 AT. The Jeep looks much nicer with the right proportions, etc even the pre-facelift one. And with the facelift, there have been a lot of changes esp to the interior. But, if the price between Jeep and Allspace is differing by say 3-4 lakhs, my pick would still be the Allspace.

--Kalyan

Originally Posted by Sanjoym

Btw, there are discussions on the manufacturing date of the car, my RC says Feb 2020.

Yes, mine says Jan 2020 but if you look at the manual and other equipment like tyres etc. The car was assembled between Oct - Dec 2019 in Mexico and then imported to India.

Originally Posted by azhagan

When our SA was with us to sign the final papers, someone called him looking for another one, and they weren’t able to source one from the factory. Everything still available is probably at individual dealerships.

This is true, I just quickly checked within my circles and on TBHP, around 30+ Allspaces were taken between October and the last week amongst us alone if not more.

But, it is also rumoured that another batch or more of the Allspaces might be imported as they see a good response esp with the discounts. And also there are reports of the 5 seater Tiguan making a come-back.

--Kalyan

[Dhruv29]

I'm happy with the amount of Tiguan AS being sold in country. It shows that there is still a market where people prefer an small and nimble 7 Seater 4x4 SUV that too in Petrol variant in a segment dominated by ladder on frame full size diesel SUVs.
In past 1 week, I spotted 5 different temporary registered Tiguan AS in Gurugram.

[lamborghini]

Originally Posted by Dhruv29

I'm happy with the amount of Tiguan AS being sold in country. It shows that there is still a market where people prefer an small and nimble 7 Seater 4x4 SUV that too in Petrol variant in a segment dominated by ladder on frame full size diesel SUVs.
In past 1 week, I spotted 5 different temporary registered Tiguan AS in Gurugram.

To be fair, a lot of these have been sold solely due to heavy discounts.
2 friends have picked up the All Space recently just because the deal made it a viable option compared to the CRV.

Unfortunately, all of these cars are 2019 manufactured, and have been in some stockyard or another for 1.x years.
In my opinion, our market doesn't appreciate this segment as yet in my opinion - one reason why the CRV has been discontinued & probably why Skoda is taking their time with the Kodiaq TSi.
Heck, even in diesel trim these SUVs weren't as popular as the full sized ladder on frame SUVs.

[prnvaa]

I’ve been looking to finalise a car in for a month or so now and I nearly put the advance down for the Tiggy. But now waiting for the C5. Could give good competition given that it’s newer, diesel, and more comfort. What’s going for the Tiggy is looks, and that’s it (will be using third row maybe twice in a year so not counting that). If the power on C5 is good (am hopeful given the 2L), then it’ll probably be C5. Let’s see, exciting times!!

[kung_foo_fanta]

Originally Posted by prnvaa

I nearly put the advance down for the Tiggy. But now waiting for the C5.

Could give good competition...

So, here's the thing.
As far as I understood, the Tiguan AllSpace and the C5 Aircross are completely different.

The Tiguan AllSpace
- comes with AWD
- is a CBU (hence is a German with Mexican upbringing)
- has a stiffer Euro spec suspension which will be great at high speeds for highway runs and a little hard on low speed bumps
- has 7 seats, of which the last row can be folded flat and used as a spacious 5 seater with around 700 liters of bootspace

On the other hand, the C5 Aircross
- is FWD only
- is 95% Indianized, apparently
- has a super soft suspension, at least in the European market, which makes it great at medium speeds on bumps, but causes nose diving during sudden braking as well as increases body roll in high speed turns. Yet to hear on Feb 15th if they have Indianized the suspension setup as well
- has 5 seats and around 700 liters of bootspace

So, if you are considering just the number of seats and bootspace, yes, they are very much comparable. But otherwise, they are very different, probably even price-wise.

Again, I could be presuming some features about the C5 Aircross, since it's yet to be officially launched in India, but even then...

[prnvaa]

Yes different in specs, but for my usage (which is what am buying for!) -
1. the third row is pretty useless except for kids so don’t see myself using it more than 2-3 times a year when extended family visits.
2. AWD - again, don’t see myself using this more than 1-2 a year, that too maximum.
3. City driving petrol will be a nightmare (at least Rs. 5-7 lacs over 120k kms which is my avg running over 10 years).
4. 2019 manufacture is a heavy burden on the head.

On service both aren’t too great, but am hopeful that Citroen launches with some free / discounted service packs to instil confidence.

Tho I do *love* the looks so let’s see what happens next week.

Btw I thought the C5 was CKD and not 95% Indianised, not that it makes a diff but just curious where you got that from.

—edit below—
The more I think it seems like a heart (Tiggy with VW looks, ride, lesser used third row & AWD) vs head (C5 better mileage, more comfortable). Is close, will boil down to reviews of C5!!

Originally Posted by kung_foo_fanta

So, here's the thing.
As far as I understood, the Tiguan AllSpace and the C5 Aircross are completely different.

[kung_foo_fanta]

Originally Posted by prnvaa

Yes different in specs, but for my usage (which is what am buying for!)

Tho I do *love* the looks so let’s see what happens next week.

Btw I thought the C5 was CKD and not 95% Indianised, not that it makes a diff but just curious where you got that from.

—edit below—
The more I think it seems like a heart (Tiggy...) vs head (C5...). Is close, will boil down to reviews of C5!!

Ahh! Right. I was just wondering why, if you could get an AllSpace, you would go for a C5 (probably because of my bias towards German engineering). But yes, like you said, it makes sense for your usage.

My apologies for that oversight regarding the CKD vs Indianization. I have been heavily binging on the Kushaq's updates lately and I mixed up the origins. You are absolutely right, the C5 is a CKD.

Of course, the happenings of next week, could make or break so many hearts! And not just because of Valentine's Day!

[Hayek]

Originally Posted by n:CorE

Hey guys! Any word on the latest deals on the Tiguan AllSpace? VW Downtown in Mumbai would not go below 39.85L on-road + 3 year SVP (Corporate reg).
Here I see that people in Bangalore are reporting 37L,l

Originally Posted by kalyan_hyd

Hi
If you haven't already gone ahead with another car, do check the ex-showroom that the dealer was offering your the Allspace at. Most of us have had ex-showroom at anything between 28 Lakhs to 31 Lakhs

Did some research on this. In MH, CBU tax is levied at 20% and on the theoretical ex showroom list price, which if I am not mistaken is ₹33.25 l. So there will be a tax of ₹6.65 l levied irrespective of the discount you get on ex show room price. Both dealers are also asking for ~₹60,000 as depot and service charges over and above the tax paid to the government. Not sure what insurance would be - but presume it would be close to ₹1 lakh. So you have close to ₹8.25 lakhs of additional payments beyond ex showroom even without basic accessories or TCS (which I don’t count as a cost since you claim it back). So ₹39.85 l is probably ex show room of ₹31.5 l.

Believe in Delhi, registration is just 10% of the actual invoice value - so, on an ex showroom of ₹31.5 l, the total cost would be ₹36 l. Difference is the RTO tax.

[kalyan_hyd]

Originally Posted by lamborghini

Unfortunately, all of these cars are 2019 manufactured, and have been in some stockyard or another for 1.x years.

Originally Posted by prnvaa

4. 2019 manufacture is a heavy burden on the head.

Not all Allspaces are 2019 manufactured (or Model Year(MY) 2020) cars. Some folks in Hyderabad have received delivery of MY 2021 (2020 manufactured cars too). It looks like initially 300-500 Allspaces were imported and later another batch was also imported under another Year's quota, these could have been from 2020 manufacturing dates.

If you take a quotation from a VW showroom in your city, they will clearly mention if a car is MY2020 or MY2021.

No credible news article available on the no of Allspaces imported so far.

--Kalyan

[akashnagrani]

Congratulations on this wonderful addition to your garage! Amazing attention to detail!

[BrakingBad]

Originally Posted by sridharganesan

Sorry for the delayed response but I am talking to Elite Motors that has showrooms on Hosur Road and JP Nagar. Incidentally, I picked up my Tiguan today.

Thanks a ton to this group and forum and a special thanks to kalyan_hyd for clarifying all the doubts that I had before purchasing this car. Took delivery of the Tiguan today. Looking forward to the motoring days ahead! Love you, guys!

Congratulations on acquiring this beauty. Happy Mile munching. Do post your reviews later..... NVS Raj

[niruvrs9669]

Originally Posted by kalyan_hyd

If you take a quotation from a VW showroom in your city, they will clearly mention if a car is MY2020 or MY2021.

--Kalyan

I would like to thank all the bhpians who bought the all space Tiguan . I sincerely hope the deck/stocks are now cleared for all new Kodiaq 2.0L TSI. Decided to get one Kodiaq already.

[Sanjoym]

Originally Posted by Hayek

Did some research on this. In MH, CBU tax is levied at 20% and on the theoretical ex showroom list price, which if I am not mistaken is ₹33.25 l.

You are right, my RTO expenses with all parking fees etc wad 3.41 lacs