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k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 22:52

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Originally Posted by navin

that is odd. i have found Boston to be good. I'd suspect a bad install.

I was with a friend inside the car, and he said it might be because of the underpowered rear 6x9 coaxz.... It absolutely felt lifeless, there was hardly any bass or treble, defeating the purpose of having that oval... Donno why...

k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 22:56

Also, navin, the pioneer's volume really peaked only at volumes of 32 - 35, and below that, there was hardly any reproduction of music... My muzic peaks at 15-17 with the 9833 and you'd understand better than neone, what I'm trying to say.

Honestly, the whole setup sounded dull... And I kinda doubt it would be a bad install, becuase this guy was in the automobile accessories trade [guy shares office space with the JBl distributor in chennai, same building] and am sure he wud have had access to a good, if not best, installer... Although, he could have also got the job done by some 3rd grade fellow, who knows...

navin · 14th September 2005, 22:57

no bass could be a reversal of phase. no treble can only mean blown tweeters (underpowered amp clipped).

navin · 14th September 2005, 22:58

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Originally Posted by k_ajay

Also, navin, the pioneer's volume really peaked only at volumes of 32 - 35, and below that, there was hardly any reproduction of music... My muzic peaks at 15-17 with the 9833 and you'd understand better than neone, what I'm trying to say. ...

those levels are not absolute values. just relative. so dont worry about that.

k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 23:01

By that, i didn't mean absolutely NO bass and treble, but like I mentioned, it was dull and lifeles... sounded very sad... The owner was very very disturbed, after he heard my setup and played the same [my custom cd] on his pioneer.... He kinda felt embaressed and pissed... Was very fascinated by the 9833 tho....

k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 23:03

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Originally Posted by navin

those levels are not absolute values. just relative. so dont worry about that.

What do you mean by this??

please elucidate...

navin · 14th September 2005, 23:06

what i mean is that at "32" the Pioneer might be putting our 1.2V and the Alpine might be putting our 1.2V at "17". absolute voltages are what you should consider not what is on the display the numbers on the display are reference levels only.

k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 23:11

aacha... ok... what happens when i crank the volume levels over and above 20-22?? nothing wud happen to the HU na?? i'm going for an amp mainly becuz i love listenin to my muzic loud, and the amp supports that purpose well... i'm right na, mr.nav....

navin · 14th September 2005, 23:15

use your ears! if the speakers are complaining turn it down. if you cant hear yourself speak turn it down.

loud is fun but dangerous. besides your amp, speakers and ears must all be able to handle it without overload.

like i said before 30W rms at 20hz will make most speaker complain. 30W at 100hz and most speakers will manage fine. in short use your ears and common sense.

jkdas · 14th September 2005, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by k_ajay

By that, i didn't mean absolutely NO bass and treble, but like I mentioned, it was dull and lifeles... sounded very sad... The owner was very very disturbed, after he heard my setup and played the same [my custom cd] on his pioneer.... He kinda felt embaressed and pissed... Was very fascinated by the 9833 tho....

ehem, is pioneer comparable with alpine units?

k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 23:22

Right.... will do.... and i hope you didn't think that I listen to muzic, so loud, I can't hear myself... not that stupid yet... cuz I also keep an eye and ear for the road [and my horn]

k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 23:23

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Originally Posted by jkdas

ehem, is pioneer comparable with alpine units?

two words..... NO WAY...... not even close....

k_ajay · 14th September 2005, 23:26

seeya nav, jk... Gnite. sleep tight...

jkdas · 14th September 2005, 23:42

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Originally Posted by k_ajay

two words..... NO WAY...... not even close....

thats what! i was checking ur alpine unit on net. man , alpine units r so cool. wil try 2 get one in an year. i had an alpine unit soem 5yrs back, a cassette unit. 4got the series.

zzzehar · 15th September 2005, 00:14

Its been long since I posted (Infact asked anything) but I was in touch with the forum day in and day out. I haven't got the setup yet as It is raining heavily here in Chandigarh for the past few days.

And today I got a "Top Urgent" marked courier from MICO BOSCH Bangalore containing all the info abt Blaupunkt products with costs and warranties as applicable.

Lemme take a look at them and then decide. If we rule out B&W, how will you guys compare Blaupunkt's Unit v/s Pioneer's (say 5750)

Thank you.

And yes I also wanted to know whether the TEAM-BHP Stickers are still available?

14th September 2005, 22:56	#1562
k_ajay Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 1,138 Times View My Garage	Also, navin, the pioneer's volume really peaked only at volumes of 32 - 35, and below that, there was hardly any reproduction of music... My muzic peaks at 15-17 with the 9833 and you'd understand better than neone, what I'm trying to say. Honestly, the whole setup sounded dull... And I kinda doubt it would be a bad install, becuase this guy was in the automobile accessories trade [guy shares office space with the JBl distributor in chennai, same building] and am sure he wud have had access to a good, if not best, installer... Although, he could have also got the job done by some 3rd grade fellow, who knows... Last edited by k_ajay : 14th September 2005 at 22:58.
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14th September 2005, 22:57	#1563
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,287 Times	no bass could be a reversal of phase. no treble can only mean blown tweeters (underpowered amp clipped).
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14th September 2005, 23:01	#1565
k_ajay Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 1,138 Times View My Garage	By that, i didn't mean absolutely NO bass and treble, but like I mentioned, it was dull and lifeles... sounded very sad... The owner was very very disturbed, after he heard my setup and played the same [my custom cd] on his pioneer.... He kinda felt embaressed and pissed... Was very fascinated by the 9833 tho....
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14th September 2005, 23:06	#1567
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,287 Times	what i mean is that at "32" the Pioneer might be putting our 1.2V and the Alpine might be putting our 1.2V at "17". absolute voltages are what you should consider not what is on the display the numbers on the display are reference levels only.
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14th September 2005, 23:11	#1568
k_ajay Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 1,138 Times View My Garage	aacha... ok... what happens when i crank the volume levels over and above 20-22?? nothing wud happen to the HU na?? i'm going for an amp mainly becuz i love listenin to my muzic loud, and the amp supports that purpose well... i'm right na, mr.nav....
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14th September 2005, 23:15	#1569
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,287 Times	use your ears! if the speakers are complaining turn it down. if you cant hear yourself speak turn it down. loud is fun but dangerous. besides your amp, speakers and ears must all be able to handle it without overload. like i said before 30W rms at 20hz will make most speaker complain. 30W at 100hz and most speakers will manage fine. in short use your ears and common sense.
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14th September 2005, 23:22	#1571
k_ajay Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 1,138 Times View My Garage	Right.... will do.... and i hope you didn't think that I listen to muzic, so loud, I can't hear myself... not that stupid yet... cuz I also keep an eye and ear for the road [and my horn]
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14th September 2005, 23:26	#1573
k_ajay Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 1,138 Times View My Garage	seeya nav, jk... Gnite. sleep tight...
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15th September 2005, 00:14	#1575
zzzehar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gurugram Posts: 277 Thanked: 73 Times	Its been long since I posted (Infact asked anything) but I was in touch with the forum day in and day out. I haven't got the setup yet as It is raining heavily here in Chandigarh for the past few days. And today I got a "Top Urgent" marked courier from MICO BOSCH Bangalore containing all the info abt Blaupunkt products with costs and warranties as applicable. Lemme take a look at them and then decide. If we rule out B&W, how will you guys compare Blaupunkt's Unit v/s Pioneer's (say 5750) Thank you. And yes I also wanted to know whether the TEAM-BHP Stickers are still available?
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