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Old 22nd October 2020, 16:27   #3466
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HI friends. Need a little advise

My TV (49W800G) has HDMI slots and a coaxial out. While my sound bar will take accept coaxial input it also has a optical input slot. Can I someway do a HDMI to optical connection?

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HI friends. Need a little advise

My TV (49W800G) has HDMI slots and a coaxial out. While my sound bar will take accept coaxial input it also has a optical input slot. Can I someway do a HDMI to optical connection?
You can use a coaxial RCA cable. TV has coaxial output and sound bar has coaxial input. That's one option.

Also, there are converters for HDMI to optical & coaxial output. But, generally little costly. in the range of 2 - 2.5K

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You can use a coaxial RCA cable. TV has coaxial output and sound bar has coaxial input. That's one option.

Also, there are converters for HDMI to optical & coaxial output. But, generally little costly. in the range of 2 - 2.5K
Thank you! What do you suggest sticking with the coaxial or getting a converter? I have no STB and run this tv purely on Internet
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Thank you! What do you suggest sticking with the coaxial or getting a converter? I have no STB and run this tv purely on Internet
Get a coaxial cable. That's the better option.
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Get a coaxial cable. That's the better option.
Thank you! Can you please explain why though? The tv supports HDMI ARC and I feel like i will be missing out..!
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Thank you! Can you please explain why though? The tv supports HDMI ARC and I feel like i will be missing out..!
First of all, you do not have an HDMI input in your sound bar. If that was the case, would have given good quality.

The option of using HDMI to Optical/coaxial conversion is there, but still will not have much improvement over Digital coaxial cables.

So, the best feasible option is coaxial.

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First of all, you do not have an HDMI input in your sound bar. If that was the case, should have been given good quality.

The option of using HDMI to Optical/coaxial conversion is there, but still will not have much improvement over Digital coaxial cables.

So, the best feasible option is coaxial.
Yeah, to much hassle for the converter. Will stick with a coaxial cable. Thanks
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Thanks for your reply, the 9.2 Receivers are above 1-1.5 Lacs, I am more than glad to upgrade probably I am not looking at the right place, could you share the source which you are using for prices?

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Just came across this deal on HiFiMart on the LX 303 9.2 CH AVR. At 66k INR its a sweet deal and I highly recommend you consider it. Have never come across this sort of a pricing on a 9.2 AVR.

https://hifimart.com/product/pioneer...receiver-html/
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Just came across this deal on HiFiMart on the LX 303 9.2 CH AVR. At 66k INR its a sweet deal and I highly recommend you consider it. Have never come across this sort of a pricing on a 9.2 AVR.

https://hifimart.com/product/pioneer...receiver-html/
pioneer

First choice is Yamaha
Second is Denon
Last is Onkyo

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Have never come across this sort of a pricing on a 9.2 AVR.
There is a reason for that. It is soon to be replaced with the LX304. Also; it might barely push 35 watt with all 5 channels driven. At 9 channels, it will probably be a less than that. With that in mind, your speaker options narrow down to the ones with higher sensitivity, which may not always please your ears. Expansion is not possible by means of a external powered amplifier, if you crave for more power.

Having owned a VSX-1122, I can say that Pioneer does get their sound signature spot on for home theater but they lack in outright grunt.
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There is a reason for that. It is soon to be replaced with the LX304. Also; it might barely push 35 watt with all 5 channels driven. At 9 channels, it will probably be a less than that. With that in mind, your speaker options narrow down to the ones with higher sensitivity, which may not always please your ears. Expansion is not possible by means of a external powered amplifier, if you crave for more power.

Having owned a VSX-1122, I can say that Pioneer does get their sound signature spot on for home theater but they lack in outright grunt.
Any 9 channel AVR in that price range be it the Denon X2500 or the Marantz 50XX/60xx, is not going to pump out more than 50/60 watts in 5 channels or 30/35 in full 9.2 set up. The difference is mostly in the auto room calibration software that they employ. They all are cookie cutter black boxes at the price. Pioneer does employ the efficient class D amps in their higher LX models though.

My SR 7012 is also mostly used as a pre utilizing all those advanced algorithms mated to external amplification. Now my old school Denon 4806 was a different 50 pound plus beast altogether with quality transformers inside.

Having said that, a modern 700 and up USD AVR has enough power for most home theater users. People very often overestimate their need for extra amplification in HT setups.

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Any 9 channel AVR in that price range be it the Denon X2500 or the Marantz 50XX/60xx, is not going to pump out more than 50/60 watts in 5 channels or 30/35 in full 9.2 set up. The difference is mostly in the auto room calibration software that they employ. They all are cookie cutter black boxes at the price. Pioneer does employ the efficient class D amps in their higher LX models though.

My SR 7012 is also mostly used as a pre utilizing all those advanced algorithms mated to external amplification. Now my old school Denon 4806 was a different 50 pound plus beast altogether with quality transformers inside.

Having said that, a modern 700 and up USD AVR has enough power for most home theater users. People very often overestimate their need for extra amplification in HT setups.
True. I always wonder the wattage obsession with consumers. As though they want to bring the whole roof down with the sound. Right amount of wattage with room treatment will do the magic and that combination is always overlooked!
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First choice is Yamaha
Second is Denon
Last is Onkyo

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Ah I see. But have you heard these modern Pioneers ? They arenít that bad when compared to similar competition. You just got to pair them with the right equipment and have decent room treatment (applies for any setup) I suggested this one based on your budgets and like I said earlier you can always settle down for 7.2 CH AVR too from other manufacturers in the similar price bracket.
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Right amount of wattage with room treatment will do the magic and that combination is always overlooked!
The problem with AV receivers is that they seldom achieve what the manufacturers claim in terms of their ratings. To advertise the amplifier as 170 watts per channel (In the case of the LX303) is misleading. In no scenario will the amplifier be operated as mono and in most home theater applications, you need to estimate the minimum as 5 driven channels. Without quality power, you can't get the best out of your speaker.
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The problem with AV receivers is that they seldom achieve what the manufacturers claim in terms of their ratings. To advertise the amplifier as 170 watts per channel (In the case of the LX303) is misleading. In no scenario will the amplifier be operated as mono and in most home theater applications, you need to estimate the minimum as 5 driven channels. Without quality power, you can't get the best out of your speaker.
Marketing my friend marketing.

160 Watt per channel sounds very enticing to unsuspecting first time buyers. Also discounting that the rating is at 6 ohms and not even 8.

Very few AVR manufactures will give you 5/7 channel rating.
I know Anthem does it ( had an older model). I think Arcam does it to. But none of these mainstream Denon/Marantz/Onkyo etc do.

No body likes the sound of '60 watts per channels, 5 channels driven' in promotion literature.

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