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But we never know, Maruti is the champion of the segment and swift has built a cult status which will be difficult for any manufacturer/product to emulate. | |
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| ![]() Some details from MotorBeam. The following portion might be more relevant Quote:
More Details About The Honda Brio i-DTEC Diesel EDIT: Thanks GTO for the video. It was very amusing too. ![]() Last edited by nair : 20th June 2012 at 23:51. | |
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| ![]() Should we agree on it is a three cylinder version of the Honda 1.6. Both the clatter and size hint at this. What will be interesting is to see how Honda tackles the NVH issue. Counterbalancing shafts! My own feeling is that they will wait till 2013 if Diesel prices go up, else may pitch for an earlier launch. Also, will the 1.6 show up in the City or Civic or both? |
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| ![]() Note from Support: Please do not post one liners that add no value to the discussion. Last edited by Eddy : 21st June 2012 at 12:21. |
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| ![]() Unfortunately Honda is too late to the party. With the auto industry facing a downturn now and things in the overall economy slowing down I doubt Honda will achieve any magic numbers by launching this soon. Rewind back 2/3 years, if Honda had read the writing on the wall and brought these engines back then, most of the current day manufacturers would have been struggling to establish any footprint in India. A diesel City would have shut out the likes of VW, Nissan, Toyota and even Hyundai. An appropriately priced diesel Jazz would have made a huge dent in the Swift. But now throw in policy decisions like an additional diesel tax or freeing up the diesel price in the next months, I don't think Honda can see stellar numbers like they had seen for the City. I am waiting to see the bloodshed in this month's sales numbers when it is published on TBHP. |
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What a scoop! And what timing. Best of it all - caught by GTO. Indeed - had they not knocked off the badges (what were they thinking!) one would not have paid so much attention. So there is some hope in the future for a bounce back. But definitely they will have a lot of fine tuning left to do. Let's hope for the best. | |
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| ![]() Is Honda a little late for the diesel party? With govt set to increase excise duty on diesel cars, the diesel brio may not be the block buster that Honda wants it to be. |
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| ![]() Too late in the market, and also will it be like Etios/Liva and not live up to the hype? But, then better late than never, and also Brio is far more finished than the Etios twins. All the luck for them, though the diesel looks the exact opposite in NVH to Honda petrols. King in Petrol engines but have to wait and see if the diesel performs even half of it. |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Damn!!! Looks like Honda is finally joining the diesel bandwagon. My dream combo had always been the Jazz with the 1.3 DDIS. ![]() I just booked a white i20 CRDI & would have willingly waited if it was the Jazz. But, sorry Honda. Your's is a case of too little too late... |
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VW has the looks, whereas Toyota sells Innovas and Etios for most of its volume. Hyundai is a low-cost leader and competes with Maruti & Tata, while providing a diesel automatic. I have no idea how Nissan fits in - the Micra aimed at taking away sales from the Swift, Sunny isn't taking away anything from anybody, the Teana is a segment above. | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Thanks for the Scoop video GTO, Audio was the best part in it. Clearly a Diesel, no doubt! ![]() Now having a real proof for the Honda's Diesel-heart, "Pricing" is what is the next million dollar question. This is going to be the very point that would decide their market-share. I am only keeping my fingers crossed that they pitch-in with some reasonable pricing comparable with its competitors in the segment! Any reliable sources from known Honda contacts who have any lead here??? |
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Toyota aside from the Innova sales no. is seeing its sales from Eitos and Liva. I have test driven the Etios petrol so cannot comment on the diesel. With apologies to all Toyota Etios/Liva owners the interiors I found quite downmarket. Compare that with a City or a Jazz or even the Brio and add a diesel engine to them. A significant no. of Toyota customers would have lapped any of them up with a little bit of a budget stretch. Coming to VW, their bread and butter is the Polo and the Vento. Pair a competently priced diesel Jazz and a City against both. Sure some of us like me might have still chosen the Vento but the average joe would always go for the Honda's reliability. I myself confess that if there was a diesel City when I was buying the Vento a year back, there would have been a serious dilemma. Who in their right minds will ever say that the Jazz or the City are ugly compared to the VWs? Rewind only 2 years, a diesel Jazz would have scared the hell out of Hyundai i20 or the top end Swifts. If the diesel Brio was around Ritz and i10s would have been in danger. I have test driven the Brio and from a driving dynamics standpoint found it good enough. Nissan actually sees more sales of Sunny than Micra. Between an equivalent priced Sunny diesel and City diesel what would you choose or between the Brio diesel and the Micra diesel? I rest my case. | |
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