[moralfibre]

Mod note: All posts related to the Mustang crash are moved to this thread. (Supercar & Import Crashes in India)

[GladRagu]

Originally Posted by airbus

After entering my office basement parking I need to take a right turn and go one level up. I regularly find two wheeler riders trying to overtake despite right indicators are on. Most of these riders work in tech companies.

That proves again that education has got nothing to do with common sense.

[for_cars1]

Originally Posted by GladRagu

That proves again that education has got nothing to do with common sense.

Well, they are not educated in these areas
It is a result of getting their driving licenses without the need to demonstrate their understanding/adherance to traffic rules and the need to pass stringent tests to 'earn' their license.
These are systemic issues that need to be corrected through proper enforcement and by revoking licenses of repeat offenders and granting licenses only after proper demonstration of traffic/safety awareness.

[luvDriving]

Originally Posted by KL01toKA03

A 7 year old child lost her life due to reckless driving.
This accident is a particularly sad one because a child lost her life for no fault of hers.

Perfectly true - no fault of the child. The truck driver looks like he is used to driving on that road with less traffic. Hence he just made a right turn without slowing down or watching out for oncoming and following traffic. The bike rider made the obvious mistake of going alongside a vehicle (and a truck at that) making a turn. I think due to his speed too the motorcyclist misjudged the turn. Both drivers at fault here according to me.

Originally Posted by GladRagu

Outlawing just this won't help but invalidating all the driving licences issued and asking them to apply again may help.
We can ask the public to apply freshly once all the traffic policemen passes the test

This suggestion is correct but I always wonder how will this ever work in our country. There aren't enough policemen to enforce traffic rules. Those that are present have other objectives and targets. Out of the current driving public who knows how many are already driving without license or papers of any sort.

Originally Posted by Thad E Ginathom

the biker had no business, in the name of safety, being on the inside of that curve.
Neither vehicle should have cut the corner.

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

The run-over of the motorcyclist is horrific - he was in the process of overtaking the truck in a perfectly legal manoeuvre, but the truck turned without signalling, or even slowing down.
How many centuries will it take for drivers in this country to realize that lane driving and appropriate signalling are absolutely necessary parts of learning to drive?

If the biker wanted to go straight then indeed it is the truck driver at fault totally. But if the biker wanted to turn right too then he is also at fault like Thad had clarified. All in all the same culprit surfaces - unnecessary urge to drive at the highest speed possible and overtake each and every vehicle ahead of you.

[GladRagu]

Originally Posted by for_cars1

Well, they are not educated in these areas
It is a result of getting their driving licenses without the need to demonstrate their understanding/adherance to traffic rules

I'm certain those who overtook are well aware of their mistake but they just don't bother.
This country is filled to the neck with 'me and me only' people and travel any part of this country to witness it.

Those lots certainly do not require a session on traffic rules but a bit of common sense.

[grevvity]

Originally Posted by GladRagu

Those lots certainly do not require a session on traffic rules but a bit of common sense.

True. On my office commute of 10 KM one way, I have to keep reminding myself to be calm and let other lunatics on the road to keep doing their circus. Even if I fail to do that just for a minute, I somehow become a part of the herd and till the time I jolt myself to become a sane human. It's an everyday struggle.

[deemash]

This accident happened today afternoon near Cherthala (Alleppey district). Heard there are no causalities. Feeling sad for the girls.

https://youtu.be/plgOWymoG4w

[KL01toKA03]

https://www.manoramaonline.com/news/...alappuzha.html

An out of control car causes an accident injuring 6 people. Luckily, there does not seem to be any fatalities.

Observations from the video:

The children who were walking on the road seem to have occupied almost an entire lane. Children who walk on roads unsupervised should be made aware of their responsibilities to ensure road safety. Had they walked one behind another, they might not be able to share an umbrella, but they still shouldn't occupy the road and hope that strangers driving vehicles would keep them safe.

Not that it made a lot of difference in this case, but the authorities should ensure a proper footpath for roads near schools (say for 1 KM in all directions). The footpath could also be properly barricaded to protect from accidents.


People should have a basic understanding of their driving skills and the limits of their vehicles. The fact that it was a taxi that was involved in this accident makes it even worse. The driver is someone who does driving for a living, and he should have done better.

The role of the bike parked at the wrong place at the wrong time should not be forgotten.

[nagr22]

Originally Posted by KL01toKA03

https://www.manoramaonline.com/news/...alappuzha.html

An out of control car....

My humble request would be to stop calling these cases as 'out of control'. Looking at the way it was driven, it would be apt calling it an 'improperly driven car'. I am saying this because I don't want to put the blame on the machine but on the human driving it! Unless the car really had a mechanical or other failure which rendered it uncontrollable, it is always the human who is responsible for accidents.

[SS-Traveller]

Originally Posted by luvDriving

If the biker wanted to go straight then indeed it is the truck driver at fault totally. But if the biker wanted to turn right too then he is also at fault...

I am afraid I didn't quite understand this bit.

Either vehicle turning right here is expected to indicate intention. If the biker wanted to go straight, he should have overtaken the truck from the left once he saw the truck's indicator.

If the biker intended to turn right and was run over by the truck, it is the truck driver's fault that he did not turn on his right indicator - the biker was probably expecting him to continue straight, and the truck driver never checked his mirrors/blind spot before turning.

[wheelguy]

Maruti Suzuki Ignis involved in an accident.

Source

[Thad E Ginathom]

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

I am afraid I didn't quite understand this bit.

Either vehicle turning right here is expected to indicate intention. If the biker wanted to go straight, he should have overtaken the truck from the left once he saw the truck's indicator.

If the biker intended to turn right and was run over by the truck, it is the truck driver's fault that he did not turn on his right indicator - the biker was probably expecting him to continue straight, and the truck driver never checked his mirrors/blind spot before turning.

There are two basic problems which are not going to be overcome in the near future.

1. Bikers think that indicators, if they see them at all, are just decorative lights. I feel like stopping and hugging the guy when I see one respond to my indicator by dropping back and going to the other side!

2. Bikers are masters of geometry. The chord is shorter than the arc, and it beckons them irresistibly whenever a vehicle in front is turning.

[deemash]

Originally Posted by nagr22

Unless the car really had a mechanical or other failure which rendered it uncontrollable, it is always the human who is responsible for accidents.

You said it right!It was a case of drink and drive.
There were 2 people in the car. Both were drunk and high on alcohol.
Before hitting the 3 girls, it hit a bike that had a guy and his child sitting. Later, after hitting 3 girls it hit another girl coming on cycle.
One of the girls condition is serious. For other 3 girls their thigh bone is broken.

[balenoed_]

Originally Posted by wheelguy

Maruti Suzuki Ignis involved in an accident.

Any more details of this accident? Looks like the Ignis got sandwiched between that truck and something else.

[wheelguy]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Any more details of this accident? Looks like the Ignis got sandwiched between that truck and something else.

No casualties, all the occupants were alive, but the owner was complaining about the non-functioning of airbags, further details were not known.