[Revvatron]

David Willey will retire post this world cup, he joins long list of players quitting international cricket. Wonder how many more will join this list.
https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/d...ld-cup-1406483

[NPV]

ICC suspends Sri Lanka Cricket with immediate effect.
Source : espncricinfo
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[harry10]

Enough dissection for me.
Moving on.

Team has been announced for T20. Good to see a relatively young side with some experience too. I would love to see Yashasvi, Tilak and Rinku shine. Jitesh as WK is a good option too. Mukesh Kumar in t20 doesn't makes sense. He is a line and length test match bowler and doesn't have the pace or variations for t20.

[Eddy]

Sanju Samson not a part of the T20I side? What's happening?

[harry10]

Originally Posted by Eddy

Sanju Samson not a part of the T20I side? What's happening?

He isn't favorite of Captain, Coach, selectors or anyone in bcci. Plus he plays for the franchise which has no pull in Indian cricket. If he was from CSk or RCB or Mumbai he would have already played 100 matches for India. Sad but true.

[hothatchaway]

Originally Posted by harry10

He isn't favorite of Captain, Coach, selectors or anyone in bcci. Plus he plays for the franchise which has no pull in Indian cricket. If he was from CSk or RCB or Mumbai he would have already played 100 matches for India. Sad but true.

I don't follow cricket as much as I used to, but whatever I saw of Samson in the last couple of games for India, he could not deliver. There are so many batsmen in India now who can blast bowlers out of the park that any opportunity a rookie gets, he must cash in. I remember an interview Kohli gave where said that when he made his debut, he knew "zyada mauke nahi milenge" and that he must capitalize early. Moreover, even in this WC, it was the old warhorses like Rohit and VK who stood tall. Rahul started well but could not rotate the strike when it mattered the most. The less said about the others the better. It is upto a debutant to really make it count. Cannot comment on IPL politics as not really into T20s

There is a reluctance currently among the Indian team think tank to not experiment with the playing XI. This was not the case up until the 2000s when winning combinations were changed depending on playing conditions. If an Ashwin can be repeatedly benched and an in form Ishan Kishan is not even tried out in dead rubbers, then what hope do the others have? Even Shami was not in the first XI. One chance he got and the rest is history.

[Rahkehs]

Originally Posted by Eddy

Sanju Samson not a part of the T20I side? What's happening?

Originally Posted by harry10

He isn't favorite of Captain, Coach, selectors or anyone in bcci. Plus he plays for the franchise which has no pull in Indian cricket. If he was from CSk or RCB or Mumbai he would have already played 100 matches for India. Sad but true.


Ahmedabad crowd is the worst I believe as per everyone who saw the match. Wankhade, eden gardens or even Chinnaswamy could have hosted the game and crowd would have been more sportive.

Sanju Samson has made just 374 Runs at an average of 19.68 in T20 Internationals! How does he deserve a place in the team? He is just a hyped IPL star who hasn't performed when given a chance. Please note that there are lot of young cricketers waiting for their turn and it's not 1990s when players were given chance after chance.

And, for Ahmedabad crowd being worse - people from all over India had come to watch the match. It was not a local crowd, so stop signaling out any city/stadium. It's the best cricket ground currently in India, period!

[deehunk]

Originally Posted by Rahkehs

Sanju Samson has made just 374 Runs at an average of 19.68 in T20 Internationals! How does he deserve a place in the team?

Similarly, SKY too has failed in the ODI format since making his debut in 2021. SKY, who has an average of 25.77, was picked for the ODI World Cup squad. Sanju had an average of 55 and had played well in the ODI format. As long as people like Jay Shah control cricket, expecting results or new talents is a dream.

[Rahkehs]

Originally Posted by deehunk

Similarly, SKY too has failed in the ODI format since making his debut in 2021. SKY, who has an average of 25.77, was picked for the ODI World Cup squad. Sanju had an average of 55 or higher and had played well in the ODI format. As long as people like Jay Shah control cricket, expecting results or new talents is a dream.

SKY has an average of 46 in T20 Internationals with career strike rate of 172 and currently, he is ICC No.1 ranked T20 batsmen. Team management wanted him to use as a finisher, although, he couldn't perform is another debate.
Samson is pretty mediocre player, Yashasvi/Ruturaj are young and have better T20 stats.

Regarding, Jay Shah controlling cricket; BCCI has always been heavily controlled by political party in power. I can't actually find on Cricinfo, how many centuries did Sharad Pawar hit in 4th innings of Test Matches!

[hamster]

Originally Posted by deehunk

Similarly, SKY too has failed in the ODI format since making his debut in 2021. .

Concur on this. SKY is mostly a T20/League player and lacks the maturity/talent in big games like WC or harder opponents like Eng/AUS.
He has the urge to go unorthodox and "playing for the gallery" shots.
KL had this urge, especially when he was around his 90s, and get out to some shots like that, but looks like he has toned down this urge in this world cup.

But the blessing in disguise will be Hardik's injury (hope he gets better soon) which unleashed Shami.
On a hindsight, a similar thing could have happened, especially after having won some straight matches comfortably we should have tested our bench strength with Afghanistan, Netherlands and Srilanka giving Ishan Kishan, Ashwin a chance and to have them match ready. Who knows if any of these guys could have unleashed themselves giving us a problem of plenty though.

Bowling with exactly 5 genuine bowlers and not having a reliable backup option in a final was a bit of overconfidence ? Australia bowled Head, Maxwell, Marsh, Josh, Starc, Cummins, Zampa on a final.

[deehunk]

Originally Posted by hamster

Concur on this. SKY is mostly a T20/League player and lacks the maturity/talent in big games like WC or harder opponents like Eng/AUS.
He has the urge to go unorthodox and "playing for the gallery" shots.
KL had this urge, especially when he was around his 90s, and get out to some shots like that, but looks like he has toned down this urge in this World Cup.

Australia bowled Head, Maxwell, Marsh, Josh, Starc, Cummins, and Zampa in a final.

As far as I remember, even Jadeja took time (4 years) to mature as an all-rounder. Pant, Samson, or Rahul are all stroke players by instinct; the coach should know how to groom such players. Why Prithvi Shah fell out of favor with BCCI is still a question. If we look at the T20 side for the Aussie series, Avesh Khan again gets a chance but no place for Natarajan. What the Aussies did was induce Indian players into making mistakes, and they succeeded in their objective.

[RMN]

About Sanju Samson, as much as I want to see him in the Indian team, I hate to say that he hasn't seized his moment. Cant recall more than 2 worthy inngs of his in the blue.

Besides, I think he has started to be a little sarcastic about his exclusion too? Im sure that doesnt help.

[PPS]

Originally Posted by deehunk

Avesh Khan again gets a chance but no place for Natarajan.

Fail to understand why the Selectors keep going back to Avesh Khan & whats so special about him. They junked him some time back! Natarajan has been injury prone I believe & not sure how much domestic cricket he's played offlate.

Originally Posted by Eddy

Sanju Samson not a part of the T20I side? What's happening?

Samson has decent numbers in ODIs not T20s. So no point in considering him.

[ValarMorghulis]

Originally Posted by harry10

...When t20 world cup comes in June next year somehow magically we will see Rohit, Kohli, KL etc back in squad ...

Well, your three best batsmen ought to be part of the squad!

Heck, would this even be a question had India won the WC?

[harry10]

Originally Posted by ValarMorghulis

Well, your three best batsmen ought to be part of the squad!

Heck, would this even be a question had India won the WC?

Rohit and KL aren't our best Batsman in T20 since sometime. Please look for previous matches since last 2 years in t20 regarding their performances. Kohli has been good no doubt since that Pakistan game in t20 World cup and his inclusion will be on merit.

And this is where our issues are usually. Why won't this be a question even if we won ODI world cup? T20 is a different format which demands different skill set. Why are we so hell bent on players to play all formats even when they don't do good in some of them. We need to identify specific players for specific formats if we want them to stay injury free and perform when needed.