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Sam Kapasi · 27th March 2007, 13:40

No LBM,

I'd like to apologise to you and to everyone for my prolonged absence. I've been busy with a lot of unexpected work. All kinds, not only JBL.

Things will sort out in about a week, when I return from the Malaysian GP, then I'll be back here permanently. Me love you Long time.

navin · 27th March 2007, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Me love you Long time.

At last the truth is out! :-)

Bass&Trouble · 27th March 2007, 14:42

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Originally Posted by navin

At last the truth is out! :-)

Except for the Long Time part.

low_bass_makker · 27th March 2007, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Me love you Long time.

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Originally Posted by navin

At last the truth is out! :-)

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

Except for the Long Time part.

I also doubted that....Sam Bahi who is it......

Bass&Trouble · 27th March 2007, 15:57

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Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

I also doubted that....Sam Bahi who is it......

??

If I were you I'd be shopping for a yeti-proof chastity belt right now, if that's a hint.

greatDrive · 27th March 2007, 18:08

This thread is the most viewed thread and going to cross 1 lac views very soon.
Great going Audio gurus

Jaggu · 28th March 2007, 21:01

in continuation with my purchase of swift.

my audio system stat is as follows and looking forward to replies.

I have a Pioneer KEH P7035 (50*4 power) and a 12 cd changer, sparingly used

Features

* Dot-matrix Organic EL display
* EEQ
o SFEQ (Sound Focus Equalizer)
o 5-mode preset equalizer
o 2-mode custom preset equalizer
o 3-band parametric equalizer
o 3-mode selectable loudness
o 2-way crossover: HPF/LPF
* ASL (Auto Sound Levelizer)
* Pop-up rotary volume
* Direct Sub Drive
* 3 RCA preouts: selectable (front+rear+subwoofer/front+rear+non-fading)
* Level indicator
* Supertuner® IIID
* Multi-CD control

I was happy with the Pio 6 inch ovals and stock door speakers in iKON, faded towards back at +4 and yeah after lot of fiddling around with the frequency thingie (N,W and what not) gave pretty good sound.

I listen mostly to rock, and any stereo i prefer rock setting to put in simple terms, dont blast too much either, and restricted to some cd's and FM mostly.

Question that comes to mind is, i kinda am biased to Pio speakers, so somebody drive me some ideas please, to better option if any for the following plan.

Stage 1: Immediate, get speakers to get the sound out, budget hmm 8 to 10 k, either 4 speaker set up (am i being greedy)

OR

a 2 speaker set up which will give decent sound including base, yeah a small enclosure for Oval's allowed. Only thing i wanted to explore was keep the enclosure underneath the board and speakers flush mounted on the board.

ps: would be great if Stage 1 can be re used for Stage 2.

Stage 2: Add a decent amp to enhance the base and overall clarity, maybe in 3-6 months

Looking for make and model and approx cost (great)

Result (winner) will be updated in the other post where am discussing the car itself..

navin · 29th March 2007, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

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Stage 1: Immediate, get speakers to get the sound out, budget hmm 8 to 10 k, either 4 speaker set up (am i being greedy)
a 2 speaker set up which will give decent sound including base, yeah a small enclosure for Oval's allowed. Only thing i wanted to explore was keep the enclosure underneath the board and speakers flush mounted on the board.

For 8K you can get 4 coax speakers that fit the Ikon. It owuld be your best bet. If you are looking for 2 front speakers and a sub you will need an amp. Such a setup will cost you upwards of 10K for quality components (4K for front speakers, 4k for a Pio sub with MDF tray or box, and 3K for a 2 ch Sony amp).

Vid6639 · 29th March 2007, 14:16

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Originally Posted by navin

For 8K you can get 4 coax speakers that fit the Ikon. It owuld be your best bet. If you are looking for 2 front speakers and a sub you will need an amp. Such a setup will cost you upwards of 10K for quality components (4K for front speakers, 4k for a Pio sub with MDF tray or box, and 3K for a 2 ch Sony amp).

Navinji, i think he sold the ikon and bought a swift now.

navin · 29th March 2007, 14:21

In that case you can use 6" in the front of the Swift and eithe 6x9 on the rear tray (if you are not use a sub) or 6" coax in the rear door. The rest of my earlier post is still valid.

Jaggu · 29th March 2007, 14:32

thanks navin, i think ill go with 6 inch component or coax in front and 6x9 on rear tray.

i would like to know which brand you would suggest, am asking for your personal choice coz for me anything apart from Pio speakers is a new experience

Vid6639 · 29th March 2007, 14:37

I can tell you Navin's reply for your question. the answer is to listen to a few brands and let your ears decide.

Jaggu · 29th March 2007, 17:11

thats where am stuck, all the demo's are done using speakers fixed onto boxes and in shop floor, which will not be the scene once you listen to the same inside a car.

i used to sit inside the car in dark to listen and fine tune my HU to my taste lol and hence looking forward to people with good taste and EXPERIENCE instead of amature (novice rather) like me re inventing the wheel :P

Vid6639 · 29th March 2007, 18:05

that you will find but that's where team-bhp comes into play. get hold of members and audition their ICE.

You can also go to Anwar at auto fusion. he will have a few customer cars at his place which you can listen to.

Jaggu · 29th March 2007, 18:43

can you let me know where autofusion is?

27th March 2007, 13:40	#5581
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,935 Thanked: 2,480 Times View My Garage	No LBM, I'd like to apologise to you and to everyone for my prolonged absence. I've been busy with a lot of unexpected work. All kinds, not only JBL. Things will sort out in about a week, when I return from the Malaysian GP, then I'll be back here permanently. Me love you Long time.
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27th March 2007, 18:08	#5586
greatDrive BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 547 Thanked: 7 Times	This thread is the most viewed thread and going to cross 1 lac views very soon. Great going Audio gurus
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28th March 2007, 21:01	#5587
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	in continuation with my purchase of swift. my audio system stat is as follows and looking forward to replies. I have a Pioneer KEH P7035 (504 power) and a 12 cd changer, sparingly used Features Dot-matrix Organic EL display * EEQ o SFEQ (Sound Focus Equalizer) o 5-mode preset equalizer o 2-mode custom preset equalizer o 3-band parametric equalizer o 3-mode selectable loudness o 2-way crossover: HPF/LPF * ASL (Auto Sound Levelizer) * Pop-up rotary volume * Direct Sub Drive * 3 RCA preouts: selectable (front+rear+subwoofer/front+rear+non-fading) * Level indicator * Supertuner® IIID * Multi-CD control I was happy with the Pio 6 inch ovals and stock door speakers in iKON, faded towards back at +4 and yeah after lot of fiddling around with the frequency thingie (N,W and what not) gave pretty good sound. I listen mostly to rock, and any stereo i prefer rock setting to put in simple terms, dont blast too much either, and restricted to some cd's and FM mostly. Question that comes to mind is, i kinda am biased to Pio speakers, so somebody drive me some ideas please, to better option if any for the following plan. Stage 1: Immediate, get speakers to get the sound out, budget hmm 8 to 10 k, either 4 speaker set up (am i being greedy) OR a 2 speaker set up which will give decent sound including base, yeah a small enclosure for Oval's allowed. Only thing i wanted to explore was keep the enclosure underneath the board and speakers flush mounted on the board. ps: would be great if Stage 1 can be re used for Stage 2. Stage 2: Add a decent amp to enhance the base and overall clarity, maybe in 3-6 months Looking for make and model and approx cost (great) Result (winner) will be updated in the other post where am discussing the car itself.. Last edited by Jaggu : 28th March 2007 at 21:19. Reason: making more clear my old set up
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29th March 2007, 14:21	#5590
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,418 Thanked: 9,994 Times	In that case you can use 6" in the front of the Swift and eithe 6x9 on the rear tray (if you are not use a sub) or 6" coax in the rear door. The rest of my earlier post is still valid.
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29th March 2007, 14:32	#5591
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	thanks navin, i think ill go with 6 inch component or coax in front and 6x9 on rear tray. i would like to know which brand you would suggest, am asking for your personal choice coz for me anything apart from Pio speakers is a new experience
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29th March 2007, 14:37	#5592
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,690 Thanked: 44,156 Times View My Garage	I can tell you Navin's reply for your question. the answer is to listen to a few brands and let your ears decide.
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29th March 2007, 17:11	#5593
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	thats where am stuck, all the demo's are done using speakers fixed onto boxes and in shop floor, which will not be the scene once you listen to the same inside a car. i used to sit inside the car in dark to listen and fine tune my HU to my taste lol and hence looking forward to people with good taste and EXPERIENCE instead of amature (novice rather) like me re inventing the wheel :P
	() Thanks

29th March 2007, 18:05	#5594
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,690 Thanked: 44,156 Times View My Garage	that you will find but that's where team-bhp comes into play. get hold of members and audition their ICE. You can also go to Anwar at auto fusion. he will have a few customer cars at his place which you can listen to.
	() Thanks

29th March 2007, 18:43	#5595
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,379 Thanked: 17,320 Times	can you let me know where autofusion is?
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