[vb-saan]

Originally Posted by sk456

Well i was wanting to know about DELHI .. I would never ask this question if it was Singapore.

What I mean is, it could be the same case, and hence the reason for them not to replace the handset with a new one immediately (you mentioned there were new pieces available in the showroom).

[Desmosedici]

Hi,

I am in a hurry and hence posting (was not able to go through the entire thread). My cousin is coming down from the US permanently and i was wondering whether i can ask him to get an Iphone 4S from there. It seems they are available for 200 US$ approx but locked with a AT&T Contract.

1 - My question is, if i get that down to Mumbai, can i get it unlocked in some way where all the features are accessible on a Vodafone Network.
2 - Do we require a Micro SIM for it and can that be provided by Vodafone in Mumbai.
3 - Even if its unlocked, will i able to use it as a Normal phone where i can change the SIM Cards.

Please let me know if this can be done. My cousin will come down in 2 weeks from now.

Many Thanks.

[xydon]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

1 - My question is, if i get that down to Mumbai, can i get it unlocked in some way where all the features are accessible on a Vodafone Network.

More info required. Baseband/Modem firmware version, IOS. Also, if the contract with AT&T has expired, you can get it locked through AT&T itself.

One of my friends got an iPhone 4S, bought from Craig's list, factory unlocked for 3.5K.

P.S: if it is through Craig's list, I suggest you get the name, address and phone number of the person from whom the phone is purchased. This way, if the contract has expired, you can provide the necessary info to AT&T and get it unlocked for free.

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

2 - Do we require a Micro SIM for it and can that be provided by Vodafone in Mumbai.

Yes & Yes

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

3 - Even if its unlocked, will i able to use it as a Normal phone where i can change the SIM Cards.

Didn't get the question.

[Desmosedici]

Originally Posted by xydon

More info required. Baseband/Modem firmware version, IOS. Also, if the contract with AT&T has expired, you can get it locked through AT&T itself.

One of my friends got an iPhone 4S, bought from Craig's list, factory unlocked for 3.5K.

P.S: if it is through Craig's list, I suggest you get the name, address and phone number of the person from whom the phone is purchased. This way, if the contract has expired, you can provide the necessary info to AT&T and get it unlocked for free.



Yes & Yes



Didn't get the question.

Thanks for your response.

No idea about the firmware etc. IOS should be the latest one i guess.

My cousin is coming down in 2 weeks, so i asked him to purchase a new Iphone 4S and a new Iphone4S comes with a contract from AT&T, Sprint or Verizon for 199$. If he buys that phone now on contract and gets it here, will i be able to unlock it and use it in Mumbai with a Vodafone SIM. So ideally, the contract wont get expired until maybe a year or 2 as per the purchase agreement in US, but i still want to use it here since the price is very low. I read a few articles about unlocking but not really sure whether they actually work and hence wanted users opinions on the same.

Regarding the last question. If such a phone is brought here and eventually unlocked, can i use various SIMs as and when required or will it again be locked to the Vodafone SIM i will be using in Mumbai (meaning i cant use another SIM of another operator)

Help

[xydon]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

My cousin is coming down in 2 weeks, so i asked him to purchase a new Iphone 4S and a new Iphone4S comes with a contract from AT&T, Sprint or Verizon for 199$.

Sprint and Verizon are CDMA carriers. I suggest you get it from AT&T.

As I said, here in Hyderabad, one of my friends got his brand new iPhone 4S unlocked. Also, he helped few of my other friends to get their 3GS and iPhone 4 unlocked. I'll ask him if it's possible to unlock the newer base bands (I'm sure it can be but I just want to re confirm).

It cost them around 3.5 K per phone. That's a factory unlock which means you can upgrade the OS, when released by Apple, without any further unlocking required. Permanent unlock, in simple terms.

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Regarding the last question. If such a phone is brought here and eventually unlocked, can i use various SIMs as and when required or will it again be locked to the Vodafone SIM i will be using in Mumbai (meaning i cant use another SIM of another operator)
:

Once unlocked, it'll be like any other phone. You will be able to use SIM provided by any GSM operator.

[Desmosedici]

Originally Posted by xydon

Sprint and Verizon are CDMA carriers. I suggest you get it from AT&T.

As I said, here in Hyderabad, one of my friends got his brand new iPhone 4S unlocked. Also, he helped few of my other friends to get their 3GS and iPhone 4 unlocked. I'll ask him if it's possible to unlock the newer base bands (I'm sure it can be but I just want to re confirm).

It cost them around 3.5 K per phone. That's a factory unlock which means you can upgrade the OS, when released by Apple, without any further unlocking required. Permanent unlock, in simple terms.



Once unlocked, it'll be like any other phone. You will be able to use SIM provided by any GSM operator.

Wow, now thats some positive news i got. i dont mind spending 3k locally as anyways i am getting the phone for cheap so. i just wanted to confirm that this has been done before and users are not experiencing any issues.

Could you also ask your friend how he got it unlocked, from where etc just to get an idea. Did he purchase any software that unlocks the phone or just gave it to the local mobile shop guys who did the unlock for him.

Thanks a lot for your answers.

[xydon]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Could you also ask your friend how he got it unlocked, from where etc just to get an idea. Did he purchase any software that unlocks the phone or just gave it to the local mobile shop guys who did the unlock for him.

I'm not Sure. I'll update you tomorrow.

[sids911]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Hi,

I am in a hurry and hence posting (was not able to go through the entire thread). My cousin is coming down from the US permanently and i was wondering whether i can ask him to get an Iphone 4S from there. It seems they are available for 200 US$ approx but locked with a AT&T Contract.

Please let me know if this can be done. My cousin will come down in 2 weeks from now.

Many Thanks.

The thing to ask is - Is your cousin willing to sign up a contract with AT&T, then break it without paying the ETF, and willing to ruin his/her credit ratings.

[Desmosedici]

Originally Posted by sids911

The thing to ask is - Is your cousin willing to sign up a contract with AT&T, then break it without paying the ETF, and willing to ruin his/her credit ratings.

Hi,

My cousin is coming back for good. He wont be going back and settling there so i guess it wont be any issue but thanks for letting know, that was something i was not aware of.

[xydon]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Hi,

My cousin is coming back for good. He wont be going back and settling there so i guess it wont be any issue but thanks for letting know, that was something i was not aware of.

I don't think that's a very good idea.

[k2max6]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Wow, now thats some positive news i got. i dont mind spending 3k locally as anyways i am getting the phone for cheap so. i just wanted to confirm that this has been done before and users are not experiencing any issues.

Could you also ask your friend how he got it unlocked, from where etc just to get an idea. Did he purchase any software that unlocks the phone or just gave it to the local mobile shop guys who did the unlock for him.

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Its very easy to unlock an iphone..google it or check out redmondpie.com .
I unlocked my friend's iphone using it.
Or you can get it unlocked from the market.In delhi its done for around 1.5k

[Desmosedici]

Originally Posted by xydon

I don't think that's a very good idea.

Why, Would there be any serious issues. I am not aware so it would be great if you could explain please.

[Nitrous Power]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Why, Would there be any serious issues. I am not aware so it would be great if you could explain please.

Because, in USA, most of the phones are subsidized by carrier. In other words, carrier pays market price to handset maker but sell it at a lower cost to consumer. In return, consumer has to sign a 2 years contract that includes mandatory data plan (usually 30$ a month). That way, carrier can re-coup the loss that it took by selling phone at a cheaper price. So, market price for iPhone 4S is approx. 600$ and AT&T is giving you at 200. Now, you are contracted with AT&T for 2 years. If you have to break contract, you have to pay hefty penalty. Now if you don't break contract and just move back to India, then it's a Crime/Fraud.

I would not do that even if my intention is to never go back.

I hope this helps.

[xydon]

Originally Posted by Desmosedici

Why, Would there be any serious issues. I am not aware so it would be great if you could explain please.

Originally Posted by Nitrous Power

Now if you don't break contract and just move back to India, then it's a Crime/Fraud.

I would not do that even if my intention is to never go back.

+1 Nitrous Power.

I would suggest you talk to your cousin and ask him what his plans are. I'm pretty sure he knows the consequences.

My sister took an iPhone under AT&T contract and I stole the phone from her . The contract expires in January 2013 and hence she is still with AT&T.

You could also ask your cousin to check out for unlocked phones (Used/New) on Craigslist.com. I got an iphone 4 (7 months old- factory unlocked), 3GS (1 year old- Jailbroken, SIM unlocked) for $300 and $110 respectively. Both were in perfect condition with no scratches or issues what so ever. That was a real steal.

P.S: If you are getting it from Craigslist, make sure you check the phone before you buy. Look out for Scratches, if it works with different carriers (try with T-Mobile SIM and AT&T SIM; that should do the trick), touch etcetera.

[swapnil.rahate]

I got an almost new 3 month old gevey sim unlocked iphone 4 a year back for 450$. I got it from craiglist. If you are in LA I can give you the contact of that person he is very trustworthy.