Fiat Linea T-Jet : Test Drive & Review

Karthik1100 · 27th October 2010, 19:39

Dear Friends i saw the Linea T-jet's performance rating on motoroids.com

performace figures as given 0-100 in 10.5s

when 0-60 in 4.5s
they have also mentioned 60-80 in 2.74s
and 80-100 in 2.98s
so 0-60 in 4.5s and 60-100 in 5.72s
so 0-100 should be 10.22s
they have mentioned 28seconds delay to hit 0-100
Please comment on it. Am i Right?

ashwinvig · 27th October 2010, 21:25

@Karthik1100 The motoroids.com figures for 60-80 Kmph and 80-100 kmph have been given for the 3rd gear.

To measure the 0 to 100 kmph timing, you would use each gear to its just above RPM at which you get max power (The ideal time to shift is when the descending power curve for the lower gear crosses the ascending power curve for the higher gear. Since such detailed data is not available, a simple thumb rule would be to shift up when you feel the acceleration reduce. It most NA petrol cars, you can take it all the way to the red line before shifting to get the best timing). For the T Jet you would not shift to 3rd until around the ~ 80 kmph mark to get the fastest 0 - 100 kmph time.

Also, couldn't find a reference to the 28 sec delay you have mentioned. Can you post a link?

alavandar · 27th October 2010, 21:59

Good review. I own a Fiat Linea MJD emotion pack and have done 17500 km since purchasing it in Sep 2009. Contrary to what is generally written, I found that the engine was always willing and 207 kgm torque was very good for this class. Even up hills in Yercaud and other ghat roads. I never felt any requirement to down shift while going up hills and while taking hairpin bends. My high way cruising speed when traffic is favourable is 120 kmph and many a times on isolated high way stretches I had done 170 kmph. The car is firm on ground, takes long stretches of curves at 140 kmph and still instills confidence to go higher. The old Linea has almost all the execllent features of new TJet which you have given in the review. I find that the 16 inch wheel, higher powered engine and the only major changes. Well, in my opinion this is a good car not received so well (as yet) by the market. Deserves better sales figures.
Those interested may also read my review "16000 km done on Fiat Linea" in http://www.mouthshut.com/product-rev...925076286.html Best regards

S.I.N.G.H · 27th October 2010, 22:16

in one of the comparison photos, what i observed is that the tjet seems to be lower than the old linea. has the ground clearance been reduced? if yes, then its going to be a big problem for the owners. i face some problems on the speed breakers in my old linea!

Akshay1234 · 27th October 2010, 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by S.I.N.G.H

in one of the comparison photos, what i observed is that the tjet seems to be lower than the old linea. has the ground clearance been reduced? if yes, then its going to be a big problem for the owners. i face some problems on the speed breakers in my old linea!

Thats because there were 4 people + baggage in the T-jet.

EARTHed · 27th October 2010, 22:18

The GC in Linea T-Jet is 170mm!! Best GC compared to all other models of Linea.

S.I.N.G.H · 27th October 2010, 22:23

now even i am planning to upgrade the tyres to 16". i'll try to source the new fiat alloys. they look better!

ritedhawan · 29th October 2010, 07:27

Good review, nice to hear that Fiat with this turbo-charged 1.4 Linea has to an extent 'ironed out' the deficiencies of the earlier NA Linea. But the fact of the matter is what turns me off from Fiat cars in India is thier link-up with Tata for sales and services. There is nothing to brag about the Tata service centers . Most of the Tata service centers can't service or rectify faults associated with thier own cars to thier customers satisfaction, and then to expect them to do better on Fiat cars is motiveless. Besides, if it were true that Fiat car parts were available easily in the open market for all. One would still consider Fiat cars, since we have our preferred mechanic to whom we can rely on service. By the bye, one would really like to know : Why did Fiat gave up its authorized service centers so that it had to collaborate with Tata for sales and service?. Is there a thread on this topic on t-bhp?

Karthik1100 · 29th October 2010, 12:06

@ashwinvig, it doesnt matter in which gear you drive as long as it is pushing the car to its best in less time. if it can hit 0-100 with in 3rd gear with very less time, thats fair enough, shifting to 4th and 5t gear is not required. in the split timings 0-60, 60-80 and 80-100 it shows 10.22s (SUM) where as motoroids.com mentioned 0-100 in 10.5s why the difference of 28s?

RX135 · 29th October 2010, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik1100

@ashwinvig, it doesnt matter in which gear you drive as long as it is pushing the car to its best in less time. if it can hit 0-100 with in 3rd gear with very less time, thats fair enough, shifting to 4th and 5t gear is not required. in the split timings 0-60, 60-80 and 80-100 it shows 10.22s (SUM) where as motoroids.com mentioned 0-100 in 10.5s why the difference of 28s?

These times are in 3rd gear and not 2nd, as you would have noticed. So there is additional gear shift. Any gear shift consumes time and is not instantaneous.

Even best of drivers, would take few fractions of seconds for shifting. So, it is not just picking the best times from different gears and summing them up.

hariology · 29th October 2010, 13:08

Looks like my wait if finally over, been waiting for this launch for almost a year now! Thanks GTO for the superb review - it is completely unbiased and passionate.

challa · 29th October 2010, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ritedhawan

But the fact of the matter is what turns me off from Fiat cars in India is thier link-up with Tata for sales and services. There is nothing to brag about the Tata service centers . Most of the Tata service centers can't service or rectify faults associated with thier own cars to thier customers satisfaction, and then to expect them to do better on Fiat cars is motiveless.

HI

I guess you are not right with respective to servicing of Fiat vehicles in tata service stations. Fiat vehicles are serviced only by fiat service engineers and theres no mix up with TATA here. Fiat is just using TATA resources like machinary, tools and space. Atleast here in bangalore this is the way they are putup and i beleive it is same throught India.

piyushlall · 29th October 2010, 13:40

Came to know that Fiat is launching T Jet in 1st week of Nov 2010 in Bengalore , Chennai , Hyderabad, Cochin , Trivendrum , Coimbatore, Surat , Ahmedabad , Baroda, Chandigarh , Ludhiana and Kolkatta. Is this true ??

venkateshkm · 29th October 2010, 17:31

I received a call from the Fiat Customer Service Team and got to know that the TJet will be in Bangalore on Nov 1st 2010. Price? Wait till then they say.Also they are ready to delivery in weeks as against months with VW.

oxyzen · 31st October 2010, 13:53

I could not help noticing T jet runs on 190/60 R15.
But Tjet+ on 205/55 R16.
Which means an approximate 4% increase in diameter or circumference. Generally people recommend max 2% upsize.
Now I am pretty much sure both of them have the same gear ratio and final drive. So isn't the 4% upside too much? 4% upsize also means 4% reduction in torque!!
Can anyone confirm whether the Tjet pulls cleaner than the tjet+ (or lesser turbo lag).

27th October 2010, 19:39	#196
Karthik1100 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 678 Thanked: 803 Times View My Garage	Dear Friends i saw the Linea T-jet's performance rating on motoroids.com performace figures as given 0-100 in 10.5s when 0-60 in 4.5s they have also mentioned 60-80 in 2.74s and 80-100 in 2.98s so 0-60 in 4.5s and 60-100 in 5.72s so 0-100 should be 10.22s they have mentioned 28seconds delay to hit 0-100 Please comment on it. Am i Right?
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27th October 2010, 21:25	#197
ashwinvig Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17 Thanked: 0 Times	@Karthik1100 The motoroids.com figures for 60-80 Kmph and 80-100 kmph have been given for the 3rd gear. To measure the 0 to 100 kmph timing, you would use each gear to its just above RPM at which you get max power (The ideal time to shift is when the descending power curve for the lower gear crosses the ascending power curve for the higher gear. Since such detailed data is not available, a simple thumb rule would be to shift up when you feel the acceleration reduce. It most NA petrol cars, you can take it all the way to the red line before shifting to get the best timing). For the T Jet you would not shift to 3rd until around the ~ 80 kmph mark to get the fastest 0 - 100 kmph time. Also, couldn't find a reference to the 28 sec delay you have mentioned. Can you post a link?
	() Thanks

27th October 2010, 21:59	#198
alavandar BHPian Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chennai Posts: 171 Thanked: 130 Times	Good review. I own a Fiat Linea MJD emotion pack and have done 17500 km since purchasing it in Sep 2009. Contrary to what is generally written, I found that the engine was always willing and 207 kgm torque was very good for this class. Even up hills in Yercaud and other ghat roads. I never felt any requirement to down shift while going up hills and while taking hairpin bends. My high way cruising speed when traffic is favourable is 120 kmph and many a times on isolated high way stretches I had done 170 kmph. The car is firm on ground, takes long stretches of curves at 140 kmph and still instills confidence to go higher. The old Linea has almost all the execllent features of new TJet which you have given in the review. I find that the 16 inch wheel, higher powered engine and the only major changes. Well, in my opinion this is a good car not received so well (as yet) by the market. Deserves better sales figures. Those interested may also read my review "16000 km done on Fiat Linea" in http://www.mouthshut.com/product-rev...925076286.html Best regards
	() Thanks

27th October 2010, 22:16	#199
S.I.N.G.H BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 387 Thanked: 134 Times View My Garage	in one of the comparison photos, what i observed is that the tjet seems to be lower than the old linea. has the ground clearance been reduced? if yes, then its going to be a big problem for the owners. i face some problems on the speed breakers in my old linea!
	() Thanks

27th October 2010, 22:18	#201
EARTHed BANNED Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Greater Bangalore Posts: 420 Thanked: 39 Times	The GC in Linea T-Jet is 170mm!! Best GC compared to all other models of Linea.
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27th October 2010, 22:23	#202
S.I.N.G.H BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Delhi Posts: 387 Thanked: 134 Times View My Garage	now even i am planning to upgrade the tyres to 16". i'll try to source the new fiat alloys. they look better!
	() Thanks

29th October 2010, 07:27	#203
ritedhawan BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Noida Posts: 344 Thanked: 740 Times	Good review, nice to hear that Fiat with this turbo-charged 1.4 Linea has to an extent 'ironed out' the deficiencies of the earlier NA Linea. But the fact of the matter is what turns me off from Fiat cars in India is thier link-up with Tata for sales and services. There is nothing to brag about the Tata service centers . Most of the Tata service centers can't service or rectify faults associated with thier own cars to thier customers satisfaction, and then to expect them to do better on Fiat cars is motiveless. Besides, if it were true that Fiat car parts were available easily in the open market for all. One would still consider Fiat cars, since we have our preferred mechanic to whom we can rely on service. By the bye, one would really like to know : Why did Fiat gave up its authorized service centers so that it had to collaborate with Tata for sales and service?. Is there a thread on this topic on t-bhp?
	() Thanks

29th October 2010, 12:06	#204
Karthik1100 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 678 Thanked: 803 Times View My Garage	@ashwinvig, it doesnt matter in which gear you drive as long as it is pushing the car to its best in less time. if it can hit 0-100 with in 3rd gear with very less time, thats fair enough, shifting to 4th and 5t gear is not required. in the split timings 0-60, 60-80 and 80-100 it shows 10.22s (SUM) where as motoroids.com mentioned 0-100 in 10.5s why the difference of 28s?
	() Thanks

29th October 2010, 13:08	#206
hariology Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1 Thanked: 0 Times	Looks like my wait if finally over, been waiting for this launch for almost a year now! Thanks GTO for the superb review - it is completely unbiased and passionate.
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29th October 2010, 13:40	#208
piyushlall Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mumbai Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	T jet Phase 2 Launch Came to know that Fiat is launching T Jet in 1st week of Nov 2010 in Bengalore , Chennai , Hyderabad, Cochin , Trivendrum , Coimbatore, Surat , Ahmedabad , Baroda, Chandigarh , Ludhiana and Kolkatta. Is this true ??
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29th October 2010, 17:31	#209
venkateshkm BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 66 Thanked: 37 Times	I received a call from the Fiat Customer Service Team and got to know that the TJet will be in Bangalore on Nov 1st 2010. Price? Wait till then they say.Also they are ready to delivery in weeks as against months with VW.
	() Thanks

31st October 2010, 13:53	#210
oxyzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 1,075 Thanked: 632 Times	I could not help noticing T jet runs on 190/60 R15. But Tjet+ on 205/55 R16. Which means an approximate 4% increase in diameter or circumference. Generally people recommend max 2% upsize. Now I am pretty much sure both of them have the same gear ratio and final drive. So isn't the 4% upside too much? 4% upsize also means 4% reduction in torque!! Can anyone confirm whether the Tjet pulls cleaner than the tjet+ (or lesser turbo lag).
	() Thanks