[mashmash]

Originally Posted by condor

@Mashmash, make a list of the items listed for 6-7 years & 50k running, as mentioned in the service manual. Make a list of problems you have noticed. Your servicing list would include all regular items + all items to be covered at 6-7 years + any problems you have noticed. You may ask for a full check-up, especially for rubber components, belts, rusting of body (check below carpets in cabin & boot), and under-body.

Yes, what's in the manual is the Master list. This list being made here is over and above that list. Thank you for the suggestions, most of the suggestions I am getting are rubber components related. Will add "Check for corrosion/Rusting" to the list.

What is the difference between asking for a Service and a Checkup? Are they different in their terms?

Originally Posted by Aroy

Other areas
. Check the engine mounts, change if they show signs of aging, or the engine vibrates excessively on slow idle.
. For suspension check the rubber bushes and metal parts for damage. Change if necessary.

One area of doubt is the wiring harness. With age some insulation gets frayed, especially the power window part, where it is in constant brush with the door. Another is the fuse box, which can show signs of abuse if one particular fuse has been blowing.

Thank fully, there is no vibration at idle as of today, however, this is a good check and will add to the list.
Wiring for the rear windows would be checked. After the installation of an after market central locking, the left rear power window stopped working. I am sure, some wire got clipped. I was too tired then to have the panel opened again. This is already in my list.

Originally Posted by Tapish

Mash,

Check the axles properly. My esteem's driveshaft had to be changed at 75k, so I guess they may show some age.
Also, look out for all suspension related issues, and the B/C column of the exhausts (don't know what is it called).

PM me for any specific details.

Cheers,
Tapish

Originally Posted by Aroy

Yes the front axle may require thorough examination, as it may develop play.

I change my Exhaust rear pipe after 9 years of ownership.

Is there a way I can make out whether there is play in the Drive shaft or something wrong with Axle? Right now, all I can make out is that there is a woosh woosh sound from the front when the wheel goes over a speed breaker. I am assuming its some rubber thing not alright. right?

Originally Posted by dhanushs

Check lower arm bushes, damper condition, ball joints etc..
A bad damper will cause a wallowy feel.
A bad lower arm bush means, strange noises while going over rough patches.
A bad ball joints means, slight change in steering (sharpness) and noise while going over rough patches.

Loved your style of explaining symptoms. Out of the three, I do hear woosh woosh sound while going over speed breakers. Wallowy feel, I will have to leave that for the mechanic to check. Steering sharpness seems ok. Will add to the list anyways.

Updated List:
1. Rubber Beading, Bushes and Hose - Engine Bay area?
2. Brakes overhaul - Change pads/shoes if showing signs of wear
3. Window channels - Yes, for the left front window, I keep a WD-40 can handy. Have to use it everyday.
4. Engine Oil, Radiator Coolant to be replaced.
5. Radiator to be flushed.
6. Wheel bearings cleaning and greasing, replace if signs of wear visible.
7. Window specialist - if the window channel work Pt.3 does not yield satisfactory results. However, I am aware that front windows are a known problem area with the Esteem.
8. Rubber Boots: covers the CV Joint on front wheels where the drive shaft goes. Grease the CV joint also if needed.
9. Suspension: lower arm bushes, damper condition, ball joints
10.Check for under body and exhaust pipe rusting/Corrosion.
11. Wiring Harness for windows.
12. Check for Drive shafts and Exhaust holders.

I would be moving to fully synthetic engine oil from Mobil. Do we have to purchase ourselves and give it to MASS or would they have it in stock? What is the default brand/grade MASS uses for MPFI Esteems?

Car has been booked with Varun motors and would be collected from home on Tuesday, the 17 of Jan 2012.


Mash

MODS: Thank You for combining the threads.

[Tapish]

Originally Posted by mashmash

Is there a way I can make out whether there is play in the Drive shaft or something wrong with Axle? Right now, all I can make out is that there is a woosh woosh sound from the front when the wheel goes over a speed breaker. I am assuming its some rubber thing not alright. right?
8. Rubber Boots: covers the CV Joint on front wheels where the drive shaft goes. Grease the CV joint also if needed.

Hi Mash,

In my opinion, get the drive shaft opened and see if it has any life in it. The rings may be weak and may give away at a tricky location. It will probably take 15 minutes, but willl give you a good peace of mind.

Also, the woosh sound may also come when the tyre hits the wall. My cars upper wall was loose and this sound was prominent.
Get it tightened and you are good to go.

Cheers,
Tapish

[sabsubs]

Hi,

Few weeks before I left my i10 1.2 for servicing at Advaith Hyundai on ORR. Before leaving the car for service I thoroughly checked the manual, and as per the user manual, manual transaxle fluid should be changed at 30,000 KMS. My car had completed 33, 000 KMS on the day when I left my car for service. I asked the service adviser whether manual gear box oil would be changed he told that it is not necessary now because synthetic oil has been used instead of normal oil for all new cars hence the next change of manual transaxle oil would be only by 80K KMs. I told him that my car’s manufacturing date is April 2009. I asked him to check it again, because as per the manual we have to change it by 30K KMS. But the answer was negative.

i10 owners who has completed 30K service, please let me know whether manual transaxle oil was changed as part of 30K service? Or is the service adviser at Advaith Hyundai cooking up some story. Please let me know.

[SS-Traveller]

Either the SA has to give you in writing that the oil change interval is 80k km, or you stick to the recommended oil change intervals to keep your warranty valid. If your gearbox goes bust tomorrow and Hyundai says it was because you did not change the oil, would the service advisor take responsibility unless you have it in writing from him?

Send an email to Hyundai customer relations asking for a clarification ASAP.

[sabsubs]

Originally Posted by SS-Traveller

Send an email to Hyundai customer relations asking for a clarification ASAP.

I have sent an email to Hyundai customer care. Keeping my fingers crossed. Why would the service center skip instructions given in user manual? What is the problem for them in changing it?

[vigsom]

Oil loses its properties due to heat generated in the gearbox.

Please get the oil changed immediately.

My experience tells me that with sedate driving,gear oil can easily be stretched to 25k kms but differential oil must be changed at 20k.

In your case,there is no differential oil, so chill !!!

[wildon]

Originally Posted by sabsubs

i10 owners who has completed 30K service, please let me know whether manual transaxle oil was changed as part of 30K service? Or is the service adviser at Advaith Hyundai cooking up some story. Please let me know.

On my i20's 30K service the transmission oil was changed . The SA also recommended for the same.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2700417

[SS-Traveller]

Originally Posted by sabsubs

Why would the service center skip instructions given in user manual? What is the problem for them in changing it?

Maybe something as simple as damaged head of the drain bolt, so undoing the drain bolt might take quite a few hours of non-remunerative effort.

[rohan_iitr]

I also faced a similar situation when I got my i10 1.1 service last time.

My car is 2008 model. Its manual says transaxle fluid to be replaced at 15k. My car has just finished 15k kms.

When I pointed out this to the SA, he told me that transaxle fluid needs to be replaced at 30k. This happened at Blue Hyundai Koramangala.

I guess I would get it changed in the next service, lets say around 17-18k kms.

Rohan

[guptavis]

My Alto will be due for a 40k service soon. In the manual it says
Master cylinder and wheel cylinder or caliper (oil leakage, boot kit) has to be replaced every 40k KM.
Can someone tell me what this is? How much will it cost and is it necessary? I will be changing brake fluid.

[Harshavarthan]

Originally Posted by wildon

On my i20's 30K service the transmission oil was changed . The SA also recommended for the same.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2700417

They did not change the transmission oil in my i20 crdi when I gave it for 30k service and now my car has done 36k kms. Will be changing it in my next service.

And what is the ideal life of clutch plate considering the fact that i20 crdi engine is high reviving and requires frequent gear shifts.

[rajshenoy]

I am asking this out of curiosity.

I use a Petrol Maruti Swift VXI(5 year old) My car running used to be pretty low till last one year or so and i used to touch maximum 7-8K per year and hence only one service per year

Off late my running has increased and i now run 10-12K easily in a year. So the question is do i need to really give the car for servicing every 5K kms as mentioned by the Service adviser ?

I make it a point to get the wheel alignment and balancing every 5K from outside and my car is always washed and kept clean.

I feel most of the service centers do only the above two jobs in the 5K service(wash and wheel alignment etc), or am i really missing something ? Just trying to find a usecase to justify the reason for a car to go to service center every 5000 kms !!

[gaurav_chopra04]

Originally Posted by rajshenoy

I use a Petrol Maruti Swift VXI(5 year old) My car running used to be pretty low till last one year or so and i used to touch maximum 7-8K per year and hence only one service per year

Off late my running has increased and i now run 10-12K easily in a year. So the question is do i need to really give the car for servicing every 5K kms as mentioned by the Service adviser ?

5k kms service my MS dealers is a common scam. Ofcourse, older cars from MS needed service every 5k kms but thats not the case with swift. In fact, even an alto needs service every 10k kms today with normal engine oil. We used swift for over 1 lac kms and the service was done only every 10k kms/6 months till the warranty period and 10k kms/1 year after that.

Since, your car is not in warranty, it should not be an issue to get it serviced every 10k kms/1 year.

[carboy]

Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04

5k kms service my MS dealers is a common scam. Ofcourse, older cars from MS needed service every 5k kms but thats not the case with swift. In fact, even an alto needs service every 10k kms today with normal engine oil. We used swift for over 1 lac kms and the service was done only every 10k kms/6 months till the warranty period and 10k kms/1 year after that.

Since, your car is not in warranty, it should not be an issue to get it serviced every 10k kms/1 year.

Even when in warranty, Swift requires just 10K/1yr.

And alignment and balancing every 5K kms is overkill, IMHO.

[AutoIndian]

Originally Posted by rajshenoy

I feel most of the service centers do only the above two jobs in the 5K service(wash and wheel alignment etc), or am i really missing something ? Just trying to find a usecase to justify the reason for a car to go to service center every 5000 kms !!

Originally Posted by gaurav_chopra04

We used swift for over 1 lac kms and the service was done only every 10k kms/6 months till the warranty period and 10k kms/1 year after that.

Since, your car is not in warranty, it should not be an issue to get it serviced every 10k kms/1 year.

I agree with Gaurav over here Raj. Most of the cars have a 10K kms oil change interval (the most important part of any service). Since you keep the car neat & clean & don't face any issues with the car, it would be prudent to visit the service centre only for the 10K service. I have long stopped getting the car serviced @ 5K intervals, but religiously get it serviced @ 10K kms.