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Old 3rd January 2021, 15:22   #9706
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Any quick fix suggestions to avoid the battery drain while waiting to take to the service center?
You just need to disconnect the brake light switch. It is located just above the brake pedal.

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As I have shared earlier, I have placed a bolt and it is as good as a permanent solution but please exercise caution while doing it. RRZEN made a small error in the execution regarding pedal free play and unfortunately it was an expensive fix later. If you want this to fixed by the ASC, just disconnect the negative terminal of the battery for now to ensure that the battery doesn’t drain.

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Well, I guess the small mistake I made and the correction I shared earlier should help anyone get this fix right and shouldn't deter them from attempting this DIY. Also, I wouldn't say the fix was expensive because all I had to pay was for the breakdown recovery service. HASS never did anything with the stopper (bolt I had fixed, in this case) and it stays on as I fixed it.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 18:20   #9707
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Thanks for the timely hints. Went with the bolt hack.

Did not touch the brake switch at all, so hopefully clear of the issue rr_zen mentioned.
And finally, here is the thing that broke. I saw it right at the footwell.
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Hi folks, just a quick question , is there any place where I can order Honda ATF DW1 Automatic Transmission oil for my 2013 Civic V AT. I'm not really comfortable giving the car to Honda for a drain and fill, especially after reading about a Honda ASC messing up on a fellow Bhpians Honda City Cvt by using the wrong oil. I see the oil on Amazon but it's astronomically priced at 7.3 k for 4 quartz. I checked on boodmo, but the same isn't available . Also correct me if I'm wrong but DW1 is the replacement for the erstwhile Honda ATF Z1 and the former is a synthetic variant of it. No issues mixing the two right ?
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Hi folks, just a quick question , is there any place where I can order Honda ATF DW1 Automatic Transmission oil for my 2013 Civic V AT. I'm not really comfortable giving the car to Honda for a drain and fill, especially after reading about a Honda ASC messing up on a fellow Bhpians Honda City Cvt by using the wrong oil. I see the oil on Amazon but it's astronomically priced at 7.3 k for 4 quartz. I checked on boodmo, but the same isn't available . Also correct me if I'm wrong but DW1 is the replacement for the erstwhile Honda ATF Z1 and the former is a synthetic variant of it. No issues mixing the two right ?
Since you are in Mumbai you can try at Shetty motors down south. Give them a call and see. No should be on T-BHP classified.
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Since you are in Mumbai you can try at Shetty motors down south. Give them a call and see. No should be on T-BHP classified.
Thanks Sumeet. I'll check them out. Loved your Civic thread btw. Followed it for years till the end.
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And finally, here is the thing that broke. I saw it right at the footwell.
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Not Civic-related, but I found a fragment of the object pictured above in my Brio's footwell. What I found is just the top part, not the circular base. I thought it was someone's tooth at first!
What is this object? Something connected to the brake lights?
Because my brake lights seem to be working fine.
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What is this object? Something connected to the brake lights?
Because my brake lights seem to be working fine.
Yes, it's the stopper for the brake switch. Please refer this video (Honda Civic : Maintenance, Service Costs and Must dos)
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Hi folks, just a quick question , is there any place where I can order Honda ATF DW1 Automatic Transmission oil for my 2013 Civic V AT. I'm not really comfortable giving the car to Honda for a drain and fill, especially after reading about a Honda ASC messing up on a fellow Bhpians Honda City Cvt by using the wrong oil. I see the oil on Amazon but it's astronomically priced at 7.3 k for 4 quartz. I checked on boodmo, but the same isn't available . Also correct me if I'm wrong but DW1 is the replacement for the erstwhile Honda ATF Z1 and the former is a synthetic variant of it. No issues mixing the two right ?
I had the transmission oil in my Accord changed at the dealership and this is what they used.
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I had the transmission oil in my Accord changed at the dealership and this is what they used.
Thank you, I checked around and was given to understand that this seems to be the same ATF DW 1 being sold in India under this package and is used for all Honda torque converter automatics. Internationally, it's sold in a greenish grey bottle with a red cap. Also how was the experience post the oil change might I ask, did the shifts become any smoother on your Accord or felt the same? I will be ordering 3 litres of the same and doing a drain and fill at my FNG.

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Thank you, I checked around and was given to understand that this seems to be the same ATF DW 1 being sold in India under this package and is used for all Honda torque converter automatics. Internationally, it's sold in a greenish grey bottle with a red cap. Also how was the experience post the oil change might I ask, did the shifts become any smoother on your Accord or felt the same? I will be ordering 3 litres of the same and doing a drain and fill at my FNG.
Yes, I can confirm that I was told the same - that this fluid is the Indian equivalent of the DW 1 sold in the US.

I did three drain and fills (D&Fs) since the Accord transmission has around 9-10 litres of fluid and each drain is only around 3.5 litres. My car has done only 20k kms but I changed the fluid anyway since the car is 11 years old. The first drain fluid was not toasted but looked fairly dark.

Shifts became progressively and noticeably smoother after each D&F. Shifts like a dream now.

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Yes, I can confirm that I was told the same - that this fluid is the Indian equivalent of the DW 1 sold in the US.

I did three drain and fills (D&Fs) since the Accord transmission has around 9-10 litres of fluid and each drain is only around 3.5 litres.
How far apart were your 3 drain and fills might I ask. Were they done back to back or after driving a few Kms or weeks or months appart? Im aware that it takes atleast two to three drain and fills to empty and fill the slush box in the Civic as well. ( Around 8.1 litres approx).
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How far apart were your 3 drain and fills might I ask. Were they done back to back or after driving a few Kms or weeks or months appart? Im aware that it takes atleast two to three drain and fills to empty and fill the slush box in the Civic as well. ( Around 8.1 litres approx).
The D&Fs were all a few weeks apart from each other.
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Question for Civic MT owners - How do you deal with the problem of the noisy clutch pedal ? I am referring to the 'trrrk' sound that comes every time the clutch pedal is pressed and released. The issue in my car was identified to be a faulty clutch switch assembly, the purpose of which as I understand is to prevent the engine starter motor from cranking the engine unless the clutch pedal is pressed. However, this feature seems to be non-existent in my car.Fellow BHPians with a MT Civic can confirm their experience. Now, coming back to the orginal issue of the noisy clutch pedal, HASS had changed the clutch switch assy when I had given the car to them for changing the engine mount. The clutch pedal was like butter when I took the car back from HASS after the repairs. However, within a km of driving the issue resurfaced and I was back on square one. I checked on the 8thCivic forum and got to know that the best way to address this issue was to apply white lithium grease to the clutch switch assembly. However, even after applying white lithium grease the issue seems to persist. I know many of us may think that it is one of the clutch cylinders that may be at fault. But, I feel otherwise because:

a) My car has just done close to 40K km till date and is driven only by me.
b) I am an extremely careful driver and not the one to subject it to any rough usage.
c) Functionally, the clutch is working perfectly fine though feels a tad harder when it is noisy.
d) Once in a while, the noise disappears on its own (and the clutch is very soft), only to reappear after a brief while.

During my visit to IGNITE once, Raghav had advised me to remove the clutch switch as it did not serve any purpose but I wasnt sure if that was the right thing. Would like to hear from Civic MT owners on their experience and suggestions.
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Question for Civic MT owners - How do you deal with the problem of the noisy clutch pedal ? I am referring to the 'trrrk' sound that comes every time the clutch pedal is pressed and released. The issue in my car was identified to be a faulty clutch switch assembly, the purpose of which as I understand is to prevent the engine starter motor from cranking the engine unless the clutch pedal is pressed. However, this feature seems to be non-existent in my car.Fellow BHPians with a MT Civic can confirm their experience. Now, coming back to the orginal issue of the noisy clutch pedal, HASS had changed the clutch switch assy when I had given the car to them for changing the engine mount. The clutch pedal was like butter when I took the car back from HASS after the repairs. However, within a km of driving the issue resurfaced and I was back on square one. I checked on the 8thCivic forum and got to know that the best way to address this issue was to apply white lithium grease to the clutch switch assembly. However, even after applying white lithium grease the issue seems to persist. I know many of us may think that it is one of the clutch cylinders that may be at fault. But, I feel otherwise because:

a) My car has just done close to 40K km till date and is driven only by me.
b) I am an extremely careful driver and not the one to subject it to any rough usage.
c) Functionally, the clutch is working perfectly fine though feels a tad harder when it is noisy.
d) Once in a while, the noise disappears on its own (and the clutch is very soft), only to reappear after a brief while.

During my visit to IGNITE once, Raghav had advised me to remove the clutch switch as it did not serve any purpose but I wasnt sure if that was the right thing. Would like to hear from Civic MT owners on their experience and suggestions.

I have faced the same on my I20 petrol MT. Regardless of the Kms, the clutch master and slave cylnders being rubber parts tend to wear out ( especially if the car is driven less). I own a Civic VAT but have driven enough MT civics to confirm that the clutch needn't be depressed to start the car in all Civics.(Even the automatic Civics of the 8th gen do not require the brake to be depressed while cranking the engine.) It's called a clutch lock mechanism and is there on most cars with a push start button. If your clutch is becoming harder and creaking after the car warms up, it's usually the slave cylinder. As for the sound, it could be the throw out bearing. Its no secret too that civics have weak low end torque and need to revved harder in stop go traffic to get going or half clutched in 2nd gear. So that could also accelerate the premature clutch wear. Hope this helps. Regards
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