[DLC5005]

Originally Posted by twinblades

There was cut on the side wall. The next weekend we had a trip to Kerala (around 600kms) thats when I realized that although my car has only 17,000 on the odometer, the tyres were old. I changed from 6 year old Goodyear OEM tyres to Yoko Earth 1.

Hi twinblades,
Good that you changed the tyres in time. Indeed Yoko Earth 1 are good tyres and last long.
My i10 has run around 45k kms already, on Earth 1s and still can go for another 15k KMs easily. And my father's ertiga too is running on Earth 1s

Originally Posted by twinblades

After going through thread, I felt this would be most VFM option.
Couple of observations – 1) the noise is less compared to the OEM tyres. 2) The steering seems to br stiffer (more feedback) when compared to OEM tyres. i got it changed for Rs7000 per tyre.

My observations too are almost same, for Earth 1s.


By any chance did you consider Yoko Blue Earth's during your research?
Since price difference is not much between Earth1s and Blue Earth.
If so, any specific reason to choose Earth1 over Blue Earth?

[shashi792]

I have one year old Ecosport S (1.5 TDCI) with Bridgestone Ecopia 205/50/R17 tyres. Yesterday, I had a cut on the tyre wall (I think its mostly my fault, I did not see the kerb which had a pointed stone). I have replaced the cut tyre with the spare one. All 4 tyres had run 17k kms. (rotated twice).

I want to move away from Ecopias (they have a bit of road noise). But, want to do that after they have run approx 30k Kms. Also, from the forum, I have heard about upgrading it to 215/55/R17. I have few questions and I need some advice :

• Should I buy a single tyre (probably Michelin/Yokohama with 205/50/R17) and later when all the Ecopias are exhausted, should I go ahead with 4 Michelins/Yokohama?
• Should I buy a pair of tyres (probably Michelin/Yokohama with 205/50/R17) wherein, front two are of Michelin and rear ones Ecopia. Then I can place the remaining Ecopia as spare (Back to its original place)?
• Should I upgrade the tyre during the process (move to probably 215/55/R17 or similar). Can you guys suggest?

PS: I did check the Ecopias; batch numbers. These were not the ones with tyre bugle issue. But, still I think their side walls are weak.

[Rohit_Quad]

Originally Posted by shashi792

All 4 tyres had run 17k kms. (rotated twice).

I wanted to move away from Ecopia's (they have a bit of road noise). But, wanted to do that after they run approx around 30k Kms. Also, from the forum, I have heard about upgrading it to 215/55/R17. I have few questions for which I need some advice :
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• Should I buy a single tire (probably Michelin/Yokohama with 205/50/R17) and later when all the Ecopia's run there KM's then buy 4 Michelins/Yokohama

I would suggest you do this. Buy one MRF type VFM tire and keep it only as a spare. Since you plan to change your tires after 13k more kms, buy 4 tires of your choice then. This would ensure you have 4 tires of same manufacturing date.
Also, if you are planning on up-sizing, buy that size spare now and use it only as spare (during punctures, etc) and change back to using the Ecopia's, as soon as the puncture is fixed. So the size difference will not effect much.
Leave this VFM spare in the trunk and keep rotating the new four tires after you buy them. This will ensure even wear of the new tires, after you buy them.

[DLC5005]

Originally Posted by shashi792

I have replaced the cut tyre with the spare one. All 4 tyres had run 17k kms. (rotated twice).
I wanted to move away from Ecopia's (they have a bit of road noise). But, wanted to do that after they run approx around 30k Kms.

Hi Shashi,
17k kms on a tyre, is way too less, to go ahead with the tyre change.

As per your earlier plan, its better if you change the tyres after they cross 30k kms (or still better, when it crosses 40k kms) .
(In current age, most of the stock tyres are capable of lasting atleast 40-45k kms)

Originally Posted by shashi792

Should I buy a single tyre (probably Michelin/Yokohama with 205/50/R17) and later when all the Ecopia's run there KM's then buy 4 Michelins/Yokohama

Yes, this is the best option.
U can go ahead with a single tyre of Michelin or Yokohama now (use it as a spare) and a similar, set of 4 tyres at a later point of time.

Originally Posted by shashi792

Should I buy a two tyres (probably Michelin/Yokohama with 205/50/R17) wherin, front two are of Michelin and Back ones Ecopia. Then I can place the remaining Ecopia as spare (Back to its original place)

If you change only 2 tyres now, the brand, thread pattern, tyre age will mismatch with front and back.

In my personal opinion,
Its always a better and safe option, to have all the 4 tyres with same brand, thread pattern and age.

Also, if you replace only 2 Ecopias with 2 Michelin or Yokohama now, then you will be able to make use of only 1 Ecopia as spare and the other tyre will become waste.

Originally Posted by shashi792

Should I upgrade the tyre during the process (move to probably 215/55/R17 or similar). Can you guys suggest ?

I am not pretty sure on the proper upgradable size for Ecosport.
Other experienced members can suggest you better.

Originally Posted by shashi792

I did check the Ecopia's batch numbers. These were not the ones with tyre bugle issue stock. But, still I think their side walls are weak.

Yes, can understand that you are not satisfied with the Ecopia, due to it's road noise and weak side walls.
But, changing/upgrading all the tyres now, at just 17k kms , doesn't make financial sense.
Since you might have to spend upwards of 30k for new 17 inch tyres.

Also, you won't be able to fetch a good buyback value for your current 17k run tyres.

My opinion is, if we plan to do a tyre change, then it has to be as soon as the car is delivered or once the first set of tyres are completely utilised.

PS:
Above pointers are just my personal view.
If financial aspect is not a problem, then you can surely go ahead and change/upgrade the tyres to Michelin or Yokohama.
You surely won't go wrong with either of them.

[bhphog]

Hi,

A humble request that anyone looking to replace their 17" alloys for some aftermarket wheels, I'd like to buy the stock 17" for my Figo. Will match the market price for the same.

Thanks

[Surya-TJet]

Hi,

Have run 40k on my ecosport with stock size (205/60R16) Michelin P3ST. The tire will go for another 20-30k with the tread left.

My query is with respect to sidewall upsize. I am looking at 205/65R16 for my next tire upgrade. This extra 5% aspect ratio makes the tire 3% larger in circumference; and will possibly help in better ride quality for the ecosport at low speeds.

Anyone used this size? Any possible downfalls? Kindly share your feedback.

[Dr.Abhi]

Originally Posted by Dr.Abhi

finally after running 48k original goodyear assurance, I changed car shoes to apollo apterra hls with a little upgrade to 205/65-15. Goodyear sidewall were strong and gave good life even after ladakh, zanskar, kalpa tours. although they locked easily on panick braking and I also experienced aquaplaning on one or two occasions. At the time of change they were good for 10k more kms, but i opted to change.
I had shortlisted Bridgestone B390 and Apollo Apterra hls and finally chose apterra hls for its blocky tread pattern persuming to be helpful in providing traction on gravely surface we encounter on rocky mountains(where goodyear were pathetic).
Apollo apterra hls 206/65-15 94T M+S price 4900/ tyre with complimentary wheel alignment and balancing. Goodyear buy back was 500/tyre.
now planning for impeding Spiti trip.

After driving apollo Apterra hls 205/65R15 for 50k kms, it was time again to change the shoes. Previous tyre set served quite well till end and only 3 punctures during that time. With lots of grip and better ride because of its taller profile, i went with the same tyre again, this time 4700/- per tyre ( 4900/- last time). I have driven app 5000 kms after tyre change and the car still drives like new( touchwood), no road noise, cushy ride and lots of grip provide confidence on curves. On previous set, i toured twice to kinnaur, spiti, jim corbett. Most of the time car was packed to brim, and car and tyre performed flawlessly. This is one vfm tyre from apollo..

[Aksthedreamer]

My 1 year old wrv has run around 13k kms on stock goodyear tyres. The quality of tyres is absolutely pathetic, never had such a bad experience with any brand tyres in my 14 years of driving experience.

One tyre has developed a bulge on sidewall, all other tyres make a wobbling sound when I take a long turn at say 40 kmph, it is because of uneven wear and tear according to the dealership and goodyear.

Goodyear has rejected warranty claim on all the tyres, stating user error (as expected). The max they offered was a 50% discount on one tyre as a "goodwill" gesture, for the tyre that has a bulge. Vowed to stay away from goodyears.

So I was thinking to change two front tyres with yokohama earth, changing all the 4 tyres is not an option because of financial constraints. Also, it will hurt to change tyres that have run only 13k kms. So apart from the wobbling sound is there any danger in continuing to use those tyres?

The 2nd option is to replace the tyre with bulge, with unused spare tyre, use all 4 tyres for atleast 10k kms more and then think of replacing all the four tyres with some other brand.

Suggestions please, my fellow bhpians.

[greendream]

Originally Posted by Aksthedreamer

Goodyear has rejected warranty claim on all the tyres, stating user error (as expected). The max they offered was a 50% discount on one tyre as a "goodwill" gesture, for the tyre that has a bulge. Vowed to stay away from goodyears.

So I was thinking to change two front tyres with yokohama earth, changing all the 4 tyres is not an option because of financial constraints. Also, it will hurt to change tyres that have run only 13k kms. So apart from the wobbling sound is there any danger in continuing to use those tyres?

The 2nd option is to replace the tyre with bulge, with unused spare tyre, use all 4 tyres for atleast 10k kms more and then think of replacing all the four tyres with some other brand.
bhpians.:
Suggestions please, my fellow bhpians.

The 2nd option is ideal. Take the Goodyear tyre at 50% discount. Use the Spare and new tyre, provided spare is same size.

Two new Yokos with existing tyres will not give proper experience. The increment in grip, comfort ,noise reduction will be average not excellent.

[self_driven]

Originally Posted by Aksthedreamer

My 1 year old wrv has run around 13k kms on stock goodyear tyres. The 2nd option is to replace the tyre with bulge, with unused spare tyre, use all 4 tyres for atleast 10k kms more and then think of replacing all the four tyres with some other brand.

First and foremost, get to the root cause of uneven tyre wear and get it fixed. If that issue remains unaddressed, your car will eat up the new tyres also in no time.

Secondly, try changing the tyre position (4 tyre rotation) and see if that solves the humming noise. I wouldn't recommend a replacement due to uneven wear if the tyre is in good shape otherwise.

If Goodyear is offering 50% discount, take it and replace the tyre that has a bulge. Once you have fixed the problem that caused uneven wear, put the new tyre and spare tyre on one axle and 2 of the worn out tyres on the other. The left over tyre goes to the spare.

[Aksthedreamer]

Originally Posted by greendream

The 2nd option is ideal. Take the Goodyear tyre at 50% discount. Use the Spare and new tyre, provided spare is same size.

Even I thought 2nd option is the best, just not too keen to buy another goodyear tyre even at a 50% discount. But I guess this is the best way out without spending too much money.

Originally Posted by self_driven

First and foremost, get to the root cause of uneven tyre wear and get it fixed. If that issue remains unaddressed, your car will eat up the new tyres also in no time.

They say it is because of not getting wheels rotated on time which is not true in my case.

So getting a new tyre at 50% discount and using this new tyre alongwith the spare tyre seems to be the best option.

The wobbling sound stayed, even after changing the tyres, front to rear, rear rhs to front lhs and rear lhs to front rhs.

[self_driven]

Originally Posted by Aksthedreamer

They say it is because of not getting wheels rotated on time which is not true in my case.

That's crap. Not getting tyres rotated in 13k kms will not cause uneven wear. Worst case front tyres will wear out faster than rear ones which again does not result in the problem you're facing. Uneven wear is mostly due to incorrect tyre pressure or bad alignment.

I'd suggest you to visit another tyre store for a second opinion. Get alignment and balancing done again. If this doesn't solve the problem, take the car to Honda ASS and let them thoroughly inspect suspension components. If everything is in order, then you know it's the tyres.

[throttlehead]

Went through this long thread and realised how much tyre availability has progressed (eg. sheer variety in Michelin’s). I had the following question for folks who’ve upgraded:

1) My stock tyres are 195/65/R15, the plan is to upgrade to 205/65/R16. Primary purpose is to better the stiff ride quality. Would this upgrade be recommended given the objective or is it advisable that I stick to the stock sizes?

2) I’m considering Michelin P4ST and I wanted to check if folks who’ve upgraded experienced any concerns with the sidewalls etc. given the softer compound. Also, any feedback on the ride quality or recommendations for other tyres in this size range is welcome.

3) Any feedback / experiences about tyre shops in Mumbai (western suburbs) would also be greatly appreciated. I’ve heard decent feedback about Bombay Tyres and Saifee in Santacruz West but never experienced them first hand.

[Taha Mir]

Just changed my stock Goodyears (46k Kms) to Yokohama bluearth GT ae51 (made in India)
Have gone with the stock size this time - 195/65/15

I was really interested in XM2 but couldn't find it after searching many shops due to import ban.

Expecting a trouble free, silent and comfortable run from the yokos.

[Taha Mir]

Originally Posted by Taha Mir

Just changed my stock Goodyears (46k Kms) to Yokohama bluearth GT ae51 (made in India)
Have gone with the stock size this time - 195/65/15

I was really interested in XM2 but couldn't find it after searching many shops due to import ban.

Expecting a trouble free, silent and comfortable run from the yokos.

UPDATE: Did a 50 km highway drive with the new rubber.
While the comfort and softness has increased (which I was looking for) the steering feedback has gone for a toss. The 'direct' steering feel is missing which was something I loved in this car; it feels a little laggy and slower to respond - quite unlike a ford, more like a Hyundai. The ride feels more rolly and cushy and corners are not as fun as they used to be.

I hope I'm wrong, I can't believe I'll have to drive these for another 40k Kms. For now, with a heavy heart I've washed and covered my car because I don't even feel like driving it. I do hope the ride gets better after the break in period of the tyres.

Ps - I've maintained 32 psi for all tyres.