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Old 16th April 2017, 07:05   #8191
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Yes. I was able to remove the key while the car was moving.

Infact the key doesn't lock at all though it is goes in and out fairly smooth.

This (if in case is a feature in Civic) isn't safe at all!
Hi Ashish

Please first try the spare key as suggested by techcoze but if the problem still remains then I would suggest, please visit a local locksmith (one who specailises in replicating auto keys) he will replace the internal lock gears and post that the key will be locked once engaged in II position and ignition also you will be able to use your original keys.

The total cost involved would be in between INR 600-1000.

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Hello Guys, Iam using Civic 1.8S since July 2007 and has only done 32k on the odo.
Now Iam planning to sell the car. What should be its market price considering that this car is in immaculate condition.
Hi Uneet

I feel really sad that you have to sell such a car that too driven so less.

The civic though such good car doesn't have good resale value now a days, you would get anything in between 2.25-3.5, I would suggest putting your car in online selling sites like olx/quiker etc and try selling to an end user . One piece of advise Stay away from dealers they will quote ridiculously low prices (1.5 to 2 lacs).

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Old 16th April 2017, 07:46   #8192
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Yes. I was able to remove the key while the car was moving.

Infact the key doesn't lock at all though it is goes in and out fairly smooth.

This (if in case is a feature in Civic) isn't safe at all!
Do you have a heavy key chain or carry a bunch of keys along with your car key ? As Kunal mentioned try with your spare key when the car is strictly stationary. When you have a heavy key chain I believe this accelerates wear as the key chain keeps tugging the inserted key as the car moves around biting into the key levers etc. This was once told to me by a mechanic.
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Old 16th April 2017, 07:57   #8193
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Do you have a heavy key chain or carry a bunch of keys along with your car key ? As Kunal mentioned try with your spare key when the car is strictly stationary. When you have a heavy key chain I believe this accelerates wear as the key chain keeps tugging the inserted key as the car moves around biting into the key levers etc. This was once told to me by a mechanic.
Hi Sumeet

Thank you for mentioning the heavy key chain and other keys , the use of heavy key chain coupled with my home keys caused the wear in the lock mechanism of my car, the same was reconfirmed by the locksmith, he mentioned that civic/Honda lock mechanism has an tendency of wearing out really fast if one uses heavy key chains.

Also if one presents the problem to HASS, only solution they will provide is to change the whole lock set (15k or more).

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I got the lock levers changed and two fresh keys made for 2k. Get it done outside. The guy took just an hour to get it done. HASS was quoting 17k.
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Hi Ashish

Please first try the spare key as suggested by techcoze but if the problem still remains then I would suggest, please visit a local locksmith (one who specailises in replicating auto keys) he will replace the internal lock gears and post that the key will be locked once engaged in II position and ignition also you will be able to use your original keys.

The total cost involved would be in between INR 600-1000.

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Dear Kunal, just now tried cranking the car with the spare key (which is in immaculate condition).

The same issue is there as it is also not locking.

As confirmed by you, Techcoze and Sumeet, the locking mechanism seems to be the culprit.

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I got the lock levers changed and two fresh keys made for 2k. Get it done outside. The guy took just an hour to get it done. HASS was quoting 17k.
Where did you got this done and has the Key Code/Pattern been changed?

If in case the key pattern will be changed, then I would need to change the door and boot lock mechanism as well which I guess will be a costly affair.

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Old 16th April 2017, 12:17   #8196
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Where did you got this done and has the Key Code/Pattern been changed?

If in case the key pattern will be changed, then I would need to change the door and boot lock mechanism as well which I guess will be a costly affair.
Hi Ashish

Please visit some good locksmith (now a days they are plenty a dozen) he will dismantle the lock mechanism and replace the worn out lever/gears with new ones and you will be able to use you existing original keys.

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As confirmed by you, Techcoze and Sumeet, the locking mechanism seems to be the culprit.



Where did you got this done and has the Key Code/Pattern been changed?
Key pattern will not change after changing lock internal levers. Internal levers have distinct number and they will change worn out ones. Yes, if key is changes then reprogramming is must.

Once I had to change lock levers since I was facing issue in turning key. I dismantled lock at home DIY way and took it to locksmith. It was better than taking car to his cramped shop area.

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Hello all,

Following up on the myriad of advice from the forum members, I've decided to start by swapping out the clutch with a new set as well as replacing the spark plugs of my Civic with proper NGK Iridium units; will report back on the condition once the work has been done.

1. As for the elephant in the room; the Power Steering issue (Steering had been growing progressively tougher over the past few months), I'd concluded there must be a leak in the power steering somewhere as the fluid level had been trickling down constantly.
I visited HASS and asked them to take a look at the car to corroborate this, and they agreed, saying there was a leak in the steering system. More specifically, there was a "leakage in the power steering rack pinion seal".
Their suggestion? Change the whole unit as they were devoid of any child parts--and the cost would amount to 1.2 lacs to effectively replace the entire steering assembly.
I'd heard before that "seal leakages" could be fixed relatively easily; and I'm looking for a proficient indie mechanic to get the job done properly.
Can anyone clarify what Honda meant by "power steering rack pinion seal leakage" and direct me to a good mechanic who can rectify the issue without leaving a crater in my bank account?

2. I mostly drive around in the evening owing to the nature of my work, and the AC felt cool enough for the most part. However, on a lengthy midday trip a few days back I realized the AC just wasn't able to cool down the cabin effectively--it only managed to keep it from getting uncomfortable, but not anywhere near as chilly as I'd expected with the max fan speed and the temperature set to "Lo" (i.e. <18 degrees).
HASS AC Servicing will set me back by Rs. 4500; and even more if any parts have gone kaput in the car. I read elsewhere on Team BHP that indie garages can do the same for around half the price.
Anyone know of a good AC specialist around South Delhi who can service my AC and take care of it properly? I'd appreciate some helpful inroads in this regard.

Thanks!
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Old 16th April 2017, 18:27   #8199
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Change the whole unit as they were devoid of any child parts--and the cost would amount to 1.2 lacs to effectively replace the entire steering assembly.
Yes. Classic Honda Service trying to rip you off. In the interim, do get the power steering fluid from them and keep topping up the levels while you look for an independent mechanic to fix this issue.

I got the same issue fixed in Pune a couple of years back. Cost me around Rs. 3000 or so if memory serves me right.
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Took the car to my ac garage. The fans were running fine and they checked the cut out time for ac it seems and it was normal. The garage guy said it must have been due to load that the car started to heat up. He at most recommended a radiator wash to relieve the issue.

I had gone to fill cng and the pump attendant noted the car was feeling too hot. The coolant level may need to be checked which i would do once the car cools down. On my way home i purposely went for a long drive to check if the issue and just as i was about to reach home the car started to heat. I pulled over to side and checked the fans and they were running.

Later came back home and called up my Hass guy and explained everything to him. He asked to check coolant level. If the coolant is low it could be a leakage. My coolant reservoir still spits out coolant inspite adding a new coolant cap. If coolant is not issue as per my Hass guy it could be the thermostat valve (3 to 5 k). Will check coolant tomorrow and update same.
Took my car to my regular mechanic. Got the radiator cleaned up with fresh coolant. Thermostat hasnt been changed yet, was asked to observe and report in case of issue.
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Took my car to my regular mechanic. Got the radiator cleaned up with fresh coolant. Thermostat hasnt been changed yet, was asked to observe and report in case of issue.
Thermostat can be a problem but not very likely. As in, never heard of a Honda having that problem.

One more possible glitch came to my mind which is possible and can cause exactly the same symptoms as you are experiencing. If by any chance you have changed the fan motor or the entire fan of either radiator or Ac, in this case if the product was aftermarket, most of the times the connector/sockets don't match the OEM ones and the smart guys cut of the original one from the old fan and use it in the new fan/motor. If they have it properly connected, fine. But if they happen to have connected​ it wrongly, then these fans rotate in the opposite direction and their intended function is reversed hence causing all kind of havoc in both the cooling systems.

I'm not going to get into explaining as to why this happens if wrongly connected because it's a long story. But to cut it short, this creates exactly the same problem as you are having. Just something you can have in mind. If you did this, please get it rechecked possibly by a smarter guy than the one who fixed the fan in the first place. All the best. 😀
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Thermostat can be a problem but not very likely. As in, never heard of a Honda having that problem. All the best. 😀
Both fans motors were replaced but a couple of years ago. Not sure about the connectors being wrong but as per my mechanic radiator had a ton of dust and as per him problem should not reoccur. Lets see what happens. Issue happens when car is driven in dense traffic .
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Dear Kunal, just now tried cranking the car with the spare key (which is in immaculate condition).

The same issue is there as it is also not locking.

As confirmed by you, Techcoze and Sumeet, the locking mechanism seems to be the culprit.



Where did you got this done and has the Key Code/Pattern been changed?

If in case the key pattern will be changed, then I would need to change the door and boot lock mechanism as well which I guess will be a costly affair.
I know a reliable fellow in Alaknanda, near GK2, Delhi. The key code pattern has not been changed. The new key opens the boot etc with ease.
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I know a reliable fellow in Alaknanda, near GK2, Delhi. The key code pattern has not been changed. The new key opens the boot etc with ease.
Can you please share his name and number?

I would get both the ignition lock and boot lock checked by him.

Yesterday, I took the car for a 150-200 Kms drive to Amrik Sukhdev Dhaba in Murthal (NH2).

Though the key didn't fell out of the lock or was very loose. Still on safety grounds, I would get it inspected.
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Can you please share his name and number?

I would get both the ignition lock and boot lock checked by him.

Yesterday, I took the car for a 150-200 Kms drive to Amrik Sukhdev Dhaba in Murthal (NH2).

Though the key didn't fell out of the lock or was very loose. Still on safety grounds, I would get it inspected.
Hi Ashish,

If you visit Gurgaon, I can suggest a few .

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