[Mpower]

VF is Vee Four and VT is Vee Twin.

[Rollin' Thunda]

Originally Posted by Sheel

One question:-

Suppose I buy a Motorcycle equipped with ABS and get used to the Motorcycle's braking abilities and the way it behaves on various surfaces across terrains.

If I swap a Motorcycle (non-ABS) with a friend of mine, what my reaction would be in a panic situation? Won't I be too used to grab instead of progression?

Won't ABS screw my ability to brake and react on a Motorcycle w/o ABS?

Please do not bring Cars into picture as there are 4 wheels supporting it compared to 2 or 1 in case of Motorcycle.

Good question! I suppose ABS could make you lazy and over-dependent on it to stop the bike from skidding.

BUT, if you still practice emergency braking and keep the progressive braking habit, ABS could still kick in only on the rare occassions when it is really needed.

As far as I know, from reading on the internet, when the ABS kicks it you know that it did. So actually it helps you practice: "How hard can I brake without the ABS being activated"? without having to undergo the danger of actually skidding and falling.

MY thoughts. I have never ridden an ABS bike.

[-NUT-case]

Originally Posted by _raVan_

That is a stunning pic!!! Is it official from Honda or a mod job?

It is a mod job out of thailand where the bike has already been released.

[cruiser@0523]

Originally Posted by Ajaybiz

I am not sure why but we use to recognise or differentiate bikes with their model names in 80's like CBR, VFR and all means sure 4 cylinder exceptions were there like VF1000R with V twin, just CB means it can be twin or 4 cylinders, just VF means again twin or 4 cylinders and now these companies are launching single pod bikes with same naming convention.
Even R15 is same case and I cant digest sports bike with just one cylinder, again it depends upon personal taste, I never felt the thrust in these bikes which anyone can get in twin or 4 cylinder bikes.
Any ways good move to break the 225 cc barrier, fingers crossed to see the actual performance figure.

A very simple answer to your question, cost. Yamaha had to launch something to rival 220 and zmas, so there was the R15, every bike cant be a twin cylinder, there must be something for the non-stinking rich performance enthusiasts.

[JVH]

Called up the Honda dealer to check on updates. 3 new points

1. No test rides until April. The bikes will not be delivered to the dealerships until then
2. No HRC colour as of now. It can come as a limited edition after a year though
3. Bikes will be delivered to customers depending on the registration timelines. As of now they are suspecting 5-10 days delay from the start process. So, the hand overs are expected to start by 3rd week of April.

This is with regards to Bangalore location.

[nitro.1000bhp]

just saw a yootoob video abt the bike.. the guy says it will be available in india with continental tyres! oh dear. since wen did they start making performance tyres ? i'd be quite pissed if i have to change a new set just out of the showroom. Bad move honda. wat was wrong with mrfs anyways ??

YouTube - Honda CBR250R Walkaround on OVERDRIVE

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Sheel

One question:-

One first needs to master safe/defensive riding. All these aids are secondary safety aids. Once you do the former any bike with any tech should be easy to ride. It will just involve a learning period.

ABS does not mean that your bike has grown a pair of wings and the angels above are looking after you in all braking situations.

ABS is a safety feature considering you primarily ride safely. So if you are one moving from a non-ABS to ABS or the other way round shouldn't be an issue.

The analogy to this would be the people who blamed disc brakes to locking up their front wheels and throwing them over the handle bars or such amusing nonsense. They primarily didn't know how to ride or how to react in varied situations on out roads. Mostly such riders bang the brakes.

So to answer your question, no you wont notice anything amiss if you ride the way you are supposed to.

[EssYouWe]

+1 to what Spitfire feels.

I feel it will have a lower impact as compared to discs. ABS would not exactly alter your style of driving. One will always try to brake within the ABS limit. I don't think its a great idea to fall back on the ABS every time.
Discs usually pose a bigger problem, but even that gets calibrated within 15-20 mins on a drum brake equiped bike.

[-NUT-case]

Top speed recorded on speedo in stock condition - 165 km/h

[Mpower]

Originally Posted by nitro.1000bhp

just saw a yootoob video abt the bike.. the guy says it will be available in india with continental tyres! oh dear. since wen did they start making performance tyres ?

Continental is waay more qualified to make tires than MRF. All the Conti car tires sold in India are imported so I think it might be the same case here.

[akshay4587]

Originally Posted by -NUT-case

Top speed recorded on speedo in stock condition - 165 km/h

165
i would take that with a pinch of salt.
even the baby ninja struggles after 150
The test reports indicate much lower figures

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by -NUT-case

Top speed recorded on speedo in stock condition - 165 km/h

Originally Posted by akshay4587

165

The key word above is "speedo".

[akshay4587]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

The key word above is "speedo".

i agree,but Speedo's dont have huge errors 165 on speedo,should be 150-55 true at least?
Road test reports indicate top end to be in the region of 85-90MPH.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by akshay4587

i agree,but Speedo's dont have huge errors 165 on speedo,should be 150-55 true at least?
Road test reports indicate top end to be in the region of 85-90MPH.

Agree, but since the speed mentioned is 165kmph on "speedo" (a big caveat) this might have a greater error or it was going downhill.

I have learned not to trust the speedo on a lot of bikes. There is always a difference in the same bike from the same manufacturer.

So until we have a better idea of the real speed lets lap up these speedo deducted top end speeds for now.

If someone says 165 kmph on the gun or GPS then we start worrying and ignore otherwise.

[v&v]

Here a link i find on youtube touching 160 kmph.

YouTube - Honda CBR 250 R(FI)2011"Aling" Testdrive