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| Disclaimer : This is not a typical ownership review. Part 1 Every time one sets out to buy any material thing, the smart accountant inside wakes up and gives all suggestions to go for the most practical and economical option. The heart.. it is usually romantic in nature. It yearns for something. These two don’t get along. Never in history. Well.. this is one such encounter. When my heart won over my brain about 10 years ago, I booked a Black XUV500 W8 without seeing one in flesh. The “leaked” image before the launch gave me the creeps. With bated breath, I watched the launch of the vehicle. I could not sleep that night as the display vehicle was going to be available only the following day. Driving my six year old Swift(which in itself was a heart-mind story), I reached the dealership to see the huge crowd. All it took was one look. I was sold on the idea. XUV500 entered my life. For the next six to nine months, I made about 18 visits to the service Center. My posts are there in the XUV500 niggles thread. You name it. I had that problem in the car. My head started flexing each time I went to the service Center. What can my heart do? Swallowing it’s huge ego, just kept quiet. It was like making a marriage work despite the difference of opinion. It worked eventually. After nine months, I don’t remember taking the vehicle to the service Center for any other issue other than the yearly service. The car served me very well. I have taken it on almost all types of roads. Fast forward seven years.. I started developing a knee pain in my left leg - thanks to the clutch. Ended up buying a Celerio AMT for city use. Then for about a year, I don’t recall touching the XUV, except for couple of highway trips. Seeing it simply sit in the parking, one fine day went and sold my XUV to OLX. Strangely, none of my friends who knew how well I maintained the car came forward to buy. I would have spent a good 2 lacs on ICE upgrade alone. I think I sold it for a good 2 lacs lower than private sale. Anyways.. that’s another story. Then came the COVID world. Made the entire world re-think their priorities. Well.. there starts my new purchase story. Budget not being a major issue, I was looking for a safe car. Only other thought in head was to not to worry about getting an expensive car and keep thinking about the scratches and dents one would get from the Bangalore traffic. With celerio on hand, there was some plan to use the small car for city and the new car for Highway. My usage is about 15k per year. So I started with Skoda Rapid. Specifically Rapid Rider Plus AT. I usually get my cars fully upgraded to latest in audio gear ( Thanks to Evo Cars-Sathya Bangalore). So plan was to get the bare minimum safe AT car and spruce it up the way I want. Of course- My head approved this plan. Only other car in consideration was the Vento twin. But Vento didn’t have a Rider equivalent. Did couple of test drives. The 1.0 TSI was fun to drive. It would suffice my need for long drives too. Went and paid an advance. Around that time, the waiting time for the Rider variants shot up. Skoda stopped booking Rider around that time.. Took my advance back and went into hibernation. After some time, went to a KiA showroom nearby. Actually liked the car. It ticked almost all what I was looking for, including number of airbags. Only eyesore was the excess chrome in the front. Just above the bumper. Was also worried about the NCAP ratings. Then came my head. “Why should you spend about 8-9 lacs over a Rapid?For what? Just The looks? “ Enter hibernation again. My friend was in the market for an SUV. His list was very short. Fortuner, Endeavour and Compass. I tagged along with him to all three places. He ended up buying a Fortuner. One thing was clear from these test drives. Both the Fortuner and Endeavour had quite a bit of body roll. Since I never sat in XUV’s back seat, I understood what my kids complained about. But strangely, the body roll was pronounced even in the front seat. I went in his new car for couple of long drives. It was sufficient for me to rule out the Fortuner and Endeavour from my list. Enter hibernation again. After couple of months, started reading about the Compass facelift. Really got excited. Followed it in our forum for a long time. Heart started commanding my head once again after 10 years. Paid an advance ahead of the launch. Then came the launch and the shock. The prices were beyond what I thought. Enter the “wife”. “Why do we need a fancy car? Didn’t we have an XUV. I like sedans. Please go back to Rapid and be done with your research. It’s taking a lot of time.” “ But you know.. How many more cars will we buy? Why don’t I go ahead with this?” “Ok. What does it cost ?” “ From about 25 to 35 on road” “ Your money. You decide. I am not entering the scene” Those of you who are married - you know what that last statement means. Did couple of secret visits to the Jeep showroom and took test drive of Petrol DCT. Was good enough. Sports trim was just not clicking. Denim strips in dash and door pads were a no-no for me. Stepped into a Model S. Love at first sight. Guess it happened many times in my life Took a test drive of Model S Petrol. Ticked all the boxes. Almost about 32.5, my head woke up once again. I started looking for negative reviews. After spending few days in our forum again, I kind of concluded that Petrol won’t work for me. I like my highway rides to be powerful. Did a test drive of Diesel Model S. That’s it. Enter “wife” once again. “ Seriously? 36 lacs ? I thought you started with 10. Why don’t you get a petrol DCT and change the fabric in some Stanley store?” Hibernation again. I wasn’t ready to forget the Model S. My daily walking route has a Tata showroom. Just walked in out of impulse one fine day. Liked the Harrier XZA+. Took a test drive. Ticked all boxes. Liked the dark edition. Took my wife to the Tata showroom. She took all of two minutes. “This looks and feels more or less like our XUV. Why do you want another big car?” Pissed at this point. Went into serious hibernation. Two weeks ago, drove down to the Jeep showroom. Asked for my old service advisor. He came by.. Reluctantly he asked “ Sir. Did the refund come thru?” “ Well it came. But I came here for some other reason. I want to book the car again.” “ Sure sir?” “ Yes I am. Let’s go ahead and book a Model S Diesel 4x4 Black “ “ Sir we are getting a Model S(O2) in two days. I will make it available to you. “ Sent a picture to my son who is in a college hostel. “ Here is our beast.” One word answer “SEXY” So, my heart seems more powerful than my head - Over and over again. Part 2 Not a major experience itself. I called up my son who was going to come home for the week end from his college hostel. “ Dude, can you come to the Jeep showroom on Inner ring road” “ Again? For what now?” “ Well I kind of made up my mind on a trim. But I would like you to come and select the color” “ Anyways you will pick up the black color. Why waste one trip there?” “ Just one last time. Let’s go see the colours once” He agreed reluctantly. He came to the showroom along with his friend. Both came straight from a football ground in the same gear. By the time I reached the showroom, the car was not ready for delivery. “ Man, looks like my sales guy is not around. Can you both go eat something light and come?” The took 20 minutes to come back. By then my Jeep came. The sales guy explained the basics. Got my signature on couple of forms and handed over the keys. Yes.. the customary photo as well. I got into the car and waited for my son. Hoping to see a surprise reaction. He comes back. Sees the black car outside the showroom. Walks up straight to the window. “ Dad. I am 19 now. Don’t you think I would have guessed it the moment you asked me to come to the showroom?” Guess I am getting old. Part 3 As expected, new vehicle was not very comfortable to drive. I was just taking in the experience itself. Since the delivery was in the evening at around 7pm, Bangalore roads started getting crowded. Thanks to the improvement in COVID situation, lots of cars are hitting the road these days. Somehow I was unable to gauge the size of the car on either sides during the night traffic. Half of it was the fear from driving along with the Two wheeler and Rickshaw colleagues. Some of it was the fear from driving a brand new car. Rest of it was my inability to get a hang of the driving dynamics. After an hour in traffic, reached home. Struggled a bit to park in the basement. But parked. Both the times during traffic and in parking, 360 degree camera was very useful. As a week end outing, I booked a one night stay in a nearby resort. As a family we started at around 9am and started towards the resort - which requires some 15-20km highway driving. Since it’s pretty much day 2, I thought I will take it lightly when it comes to testing the car. The ride was good. Since it was mostly on good roads, nothing much to write. But, Every time I reached 50, I got this annoying bell which went on for sometime. Was not happy. I was told the alert will one at 80 and 120. But 50? This happened multiple times. Eventually we reached the resort. Rear seat passengers were happy. They didn’t feel the “rolling” experience of XUV. Neither did they feel every single imperfection of the Bangalore roads. They were happy. After checking into the resort and spending some time there, I wanted to go back to the car and explore the instrument panel. Wanted to choose the right display type to my liking. Fiddling around with the options, I came across my eureka moment. The speedometer was set to “mph” instead of “kph”. Guess by now you know why I got the warning bell at 50? If not, DM me. I will send the formula for conversion. Promptly set it back to kph. Went back to the room and disclosed this. My son said .. “ How can they set it to Mph? Isn’t this India?” Point taken. Some feedback I should give to the dealership. Wife was quiet for some time. Then goes .. “ So you were at 80 in those crowded roads? What’s wrong with you?” I don’t think one should disclose all information at all times to every one. Sometimes it is best left undisclosed. After returning home the next day, my close buddy - who is a owner of a Scorpio and Fortuner wanted to do a test drive in my new car. Of course I had to oblige. First half, he was on the passenger seat. Second half he drove the car. I don’t have anything against the Scorpio or Fortuner owners. But he spent about 20 minutes appreciating almost all aspects of the car starting from fit and finish to the drive quality. Especially the absence of body roll. “ Why didn’t you take me to to Jeep showroom when I was in the market three years ago? “ You forgot man. I took you. You looked at Limites, Trailhawk etc” “ Not sure. but the interiors were not that good then?” “ May be. This is the 2021 facelift. But why do you ask now?” “ I would have picked up Compass than my Fortuner” Disclaimer :: This is just his statement. Not my view. Took the car straight to Carsbuddy in Koramangala. I can’t let any sort of minor scratches in this car now. Folks at Carsbuddy did a wonderful job and did a complete PPF coverage. I liked the workmanship. The owner took special care to do the final inspection and handed over the fully decked up beast. Fyi. After my search and research I found that these guys are the only exclusive xPel PPF installers for Karnataka. (Message me for any contact info) Part 4 What I liked - [ So far ] 1. Driver seat : I am 6’ tall. My first requirement was a good driver seat with correct thigh support. I say “correct” as too much of it or too less of it makes the drive pathetic. The Mercs - they seem to have mastered the art of seat adjustments at a whole new level. But south of 35 lacs, there are very few. Compass model S definitely aces this department with Memory seats, lumbar support and all kinds of adjustments. I could find “the” sweet spot. 2. Rear seat: While this is not as comfortable as the driver seat, it was very good. In fact for anyone less than 5’11”, it would be perfect. The taller you are, some very minor discomfort. More on this later.. 3. Sunroof: This is the first car I bought which has a sunroof. I have been a big opponent of sunroof for a long time. But this car changed my opinion. It is very nice during night drives. I am sure it will be very nice during my trips to my homeland - The Nilgiris(Ooty for starters) 4. Power : This diesel mill has enough power. While it’s not as zippy as some of the test drives I had done in BMW and Audi, it fulfils my needs. 5. 360 degree camera : Found this to be super useful in many occasions. 6. ICE: Icing on the cake - the 10” screen and the crispy and zippy display are just perfect. Since I got a Model S(O2), it came with a higher memory for the head unit and integrated maps. I usually use Apple CarPlay for my music. Since we have access to lossless audio these days, I mostly listen only to lossless audio songs. The speaker tuning in this amplified Alpine music system is very good. But not “Audiophile” good. But good. Good highs, good mediums and ok low frequency. Tried to play around with the equaliser. Somehow got 80-85% of what I would get in my custom builds. But I will not upgrade this system. 7. Fit and finish : I really love the fit and finish inside out. With a proper mix of leather, soft touch plastic, glossy synthetic finishes, you can the fit and finish a notch above. Same applies to exterior elements as well. The gun metal finish in the front is the kind of understated style I prefer. 8. Ventilated seats with multiple fan settings. I had no clue I would ever use this option. But I did use it on Day 2 and found the feature to be awesome. Not so good: 1. Seating height : this may be my own making. But I prefer to sit at a slightly higher height. For my height, I found my head touching the ceiling. So, had to settle for an optimum height. 2. Subwoofer sound quality : I like punchy bass. The fact that the subwoofer is placed on one side of the luggage compartment makes it physically difficult for any audio set up to produce the right bass. There is ample bass. But not the 40-60Hz kind of bass. 3. Dead pedal : Surprisingly the dead pedal angle was not right. Not sure if it’s just me (or) the angle itself. My car came with rubber floor mats. Not sure if the added rubber(which covers the dead pedal too) is causing the issue. 4. Boot space: I would have preferred a bit bigger boot. Nevertheless it is ok. 5. Struggling to find a spot to keep my religious idol. For now it’s kept close to the instrument cluster. When I tried some sharp turns on empty roads, I found the idol moving from one end to the other. The gods must be crazy now. I shall update my first road trip experience in couple of weeks as an extension to this post. ✋ |
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27th September 2021, 09:51 | #2764 | |
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| Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review Quote:
Had a broad smile while reading your comment on the views made by your wife, 100% match with my case . Infact I read out the lines to her. Anyways, I gave it a serious thought and felt I was getting the vehicle around August, which is leaning towards the year end, why not wait for the festive season around Nov to see if there are any discounts. Also, the XUV 700 launch palyed a big role and I didnt want to repent later on. So decided to wait and watch. For some reason I'm not able to think of any model other than the top variant Model S. Glad I waited, as the Model S had some update on the ICE snd integrated maps recently. I'm 6 ft and agree to your views on the seat height. If I have to nitpick on the Jeep Compass, then it's going to be on the boot space capacity and the space inside, it does feel a little cramped. Otherwise , I'm head over heels for the Jeep Compass. One thing I could not check during the test drive was the headlight capability. If you can provide your views and also a small video (hope I'm not sounding too demanding) showing the light throw, it will be highly appreciated. Dont think there is any decent video online for this. Once again, many congratulations and wishing you happy miles with your new ride . | |
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27th September 2021, 22:03 | #2765 | ||
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AFAIR there was an issue on the Sport and Longtiude variants. Many of the owners complained and switched to a HID Morimoto setup. I do not think you will need this if you are going for the S variant. | ||
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27th September 2021, 22:03 | #2766 | |
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Congrats on the black beauty. Good call to get the PPF done. When the required dedicated care is taken, nothing beats Black I guess. I can understand the comparison with the Fortuner. While the big T has several things going for it, controlling body roll is not its Forte which is where the Compass shines. But these two are from entirely different segments to be honest. 99% of buyers will not cross-shop. Cheers and Happy driving. | |
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| Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review Hello everyone. After a disappointing launch of the VAG twins, we have finally decided to pull the trigger on a Compass Model S for my wife. We love the looks, handling, and ride. While browsing youtube, found some youtube videos of issues faced by compass owners. Having gone through this thread, not many problems are mentioned here. One of the most talked-about issues is the battery drain. Our executive said it happens when the auto headlamp switch is kept on even after switching off the ignition, which is hard to believe. Is this very common? If so, is there a workaround for this? Other than this issue, is there something else I need to be worried about? Are there DPF issues or issues with the infotainment system? If there are major issues, might go with Tucson. But hoping the issues are minor and easily correctable. Fingers crossed! |
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I too am in the same Hibernation period. My heart says Jeep Compass model S ( Petrol or Diesel ). But the price tag is what is still stopping me. Another thing is this Covid. I don't want to get a new car and then have it parked for 4-6 months ( in case 3rd wave hits us ). Will probably get it in next 6-8 months. Quote:
Happened with me too. So, I took her to shopping and then straight to the showroom and fortunately she loved Jeep Compass. So I guess, she is with my heart now | ||
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28th September 2021, 06:54 | #2770 |
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| Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review Congratulations sheelapratosh! Wishing you unlimited miles on Compass. I can totally relate to the discussions you mentioned and it's a bigger effort convincing than getting the car itself... |
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| Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review Quote:
Battery drain issue was a real thing for the facelift model during its initial days, but that has been resolved by software updates. I've confirmed the same with few other owners of the compass, and they have too confirmed that battery drain is no longer an issue. I myself have my headlamps set to auto always, but have not come across any issue as pointed out by your executive. There are no major issues with the Compass (based on my limited ownership of 5 months till date), just few minor irritants here and there which get resolved by a visit to the service centre. A point to be noted is that in the Compass, the Auto AC need to be set at 1-2° lower temperature than other cars to get similar cooling. Initially you might find the AC to be ineffective, but that is how it works. Thanks, | |
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| Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review Congratulations on the new ride! The compass has grown into a mature product compared to when it first came out. The lack of basics like electric seat adjustment and 4x4 was a bit of a deal breaker for a 20 plus lakh rupee car. The dynamics and that sweet 2.0 fca diesel definitely make it a great car and with the face-lift all the features are there too. Wish you many happy miles .. |
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| Hi Folks, I'm having a not so pleasant experience so far with my brand new Model S 4x4 AT. In the 10 days and 390 kms of ownership, the car has spent over 2 days and been test driven for 100 kms at the service center. There has been rattling noise from day one which the service center is just unable to resolve. They spend time on it and claim the issues are resolved but just are not able to. While I am really happy with all things apart from the rattling noises, this has just made the overall experience very regretful. I'm seriously concerned about long term ownership of the car. If the fit and finish can't stand good for a day then it definitely won't last long. Please be mindful of your purchasing decision. I've been taken aback with the this QC issue and hope none of you who are waiting for delivery face such issues. Quote:
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29th September 2021, 07:36 | #2774 |
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| Re: Jeep Compass : Official Review Please check if there is anything loose in the glovebox. |
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"Creating a new post instead of updating my earlier one on the rattles as this may help members here and I dont want this to get lost in the comments in the old post. The rattles in my compass model S have been resolved (for now!!!) and she is purring along like a kitten. For all the Facelift owners who are facing rattles, please note the following: Even though the rattle appears to come from the A pillars or the top of the dashboard, the source of the rattle is NOT there. the culprit is the glove box. There is a screw on the left side of the glovebox close to the body. there is supposed to be sealant and packing applied behind the screw. during manufacturing, if the sealant is not properly applied, the packing becomes loose and the plastic part of the outside of the glove box, close to the firewall, brushes against the metal body and creates a resonance. that resonance travels up the body and causes the rattles. I got the Jeep guys to make videos of all rectification and they showed me those videos and their resolution. So if you are facing rattles, please have your SC check this before needless opening up other panels. Hope this is of some help to fellow users. P.S. the SC was in regular touch with Jeep India and really worked through the night (literally) to solve this as I had told them if this doesnt get resolved by lunchtime today, there will be hell to pay!" | |
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