[meerkat]

Originally Posted by Aroy

"A regular AA battery has a nominal charge of 1.5, but when it's fresh or brand new, it will have 1.65. The full capacity of the alkaline battery will be considered dead when it reaches about 1.4 volts."
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Appliances and devices that require AA batteries are usually designed to work within the range of 0.9 to 1.5V. Note that while Panasonic eneloop AA batteries have a lower voltage, they are capable of maintaining a steady discharge rate at around 1.0V throughout its use.
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... Alkaline batteries provide good, long-term power, but they lose strength over time."

https://turbofuture.com/industrial/K...e-in-Equipment

Some battery fact from the NET.

I am sorry, but for some reason I couldn't locate the quoted sections in the linked web page. -- A good thing too, because these quotes would be inconsistent with the claimed credentials ("Bsc (Eng)") of the owner of the page!

Sloppy (but relatively minor) statements aside, (like "charge of 1.5, but when it's fresh or brand new, it will have 1.65" and "Alkaline batteries.... lose strength over time" (meaning voltage?!)), a scientist/engineer is not expected to come up with serious nonsense like:

The full capacity of the alkaline battery will be considered dead when it reaches about 1.4 volts.

Energizer (for one) says that an alkaline cell that tests at 1.1 volts closed circuit voltage (with a 10 ohm test load) still has approximately 20% service remaining! Only at the suggested end-of-life voltage of 0.8V, ~ 95% of the cell's usable capacity has been spent.


Then he forgot to clearly point out that the 1.65 (volts?) of a fresh cell is the open circuit voltage, and would decrease under load (i.e. during use)!

And if that "high" voltage somehow points to potential failures of devices due to "running hot", let me also point out that the so-called "super heavy duty" Carbon-Zinc cells (Zinc Chloride) have a higher open-circuit and initial closed-circuit voltage than alkalines! So where does that leave us in the Alkaline vs. Carbon-Zinc debate?

Then consider the statement:

Panasonic eneloop AA batteries... are capable of maintaining a steady discharge rate at around 1.0V throughout its use.

Seriously? Anybody familiar with NiMH discharge curves would know that the "steady discharge voltage" is ~1.2V. It's only at the end of its cycle life that it discharges to 1.0V (the "knee"), before the voltage steeply falls off, needing a recharge.


Since we're apparently running for "facts" from the NET, attached is a chart showing comparative performances between Carbon-Zincs and Alkalines under low-drain condition (results of an Ontario Tech University test as reported by the CBC).

I leave with a quote from Dan Steingart, Prof. of Engineering, Columbia University (which rather reinforces a point I'd made in an earlier post):

I couldn't find a single use case where the zinc carbon outperformed in any way the alkaline cells…. There's no reason to sell a zinc carbon system in 2022.

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[sukhoi]

Hello,

Need to buy a refrigerator and looking for a small single door model. Any recommendations for brands / model that should be considered? Any features one should look for while buying a new fridge? Am buying one after almost 13 years.

Had visited Croma to check options and was recommended Haier as a good selling model (was around 18K). Saw this Samsung online which is for 13.5K (https://www.samsung.com/in/refrigera...r20a2y1brh-nl/). Apparently frost free is not available in single door fridges and for this we would have to go for a double door which would increase the purchase price. Since this fridge would not be in use for 3~4 months at times, do not want to spend extra and go for a double door.

Also, for the above point that fridge would have periods of no-use, the Croma guy recommended extended warranty as an option. He said that the warranty would cover visit charges (599 + GST) and any charges for repairs, parts etc. Sounded like a zero depreciation policy but am not sure if that is a Croma exclusive or others like onsitego also offer the same deal. Is it really a zero dep equivalent or there is a catch? The sales person mentioned that if we are not using the fridge for long period then there is a possibility of the cooling gas leaking (which would impact cooling) and hence the extended warranty would help. Are fridges not capable of surviving non-usage periods?

Any other models, brands which you would recommend based on personal usage. Location of purchase is Dwarka, Delhi.

Thanks,
S

[sukhoi]

Originally Posted by sukhoi

Hello,

Need to buy a refrigerator and looking for a small single door model.
Thanks,
S

So went ahead with a Samsung RR19A241BGS single door. Ordered online from Samsung website for INR 12,990 /-. Interestingly, on the corporate website of Samsung, this was available for INR 13,190 /-. I always thought that corporate would be cheaper but in this case it was not, glad I checked the regular website also.

We had checked LG, Haier and other brands also but we could not find an economical model there.

Barring Samsung, no other brand was offering installation and demo. For LG and one other brands, the sales person mentioned that they can register a complaint so that an engineer can visit but we would have to unpack it still. If we do not then the visit would be chargeable. I recall some discussion around this few pages back, that since essentially a refrigerator is a plug and use appliance we should be able to. However we felt more comfortable to wait for a day and let the engineer do it, just in case something is wrong. This is what Samsung support person also informed me, when I spoke with them.
The fridge came with just one key and one ice cube tray. I thought that they would send at least two ice cube trays. Is it cost cutting or single door fridges always came with a single tray, I am not sure.
Delivery took some time, as compared to next day delivery which Amazon offers. But the delivery was smooth.

Hope that it serves us well.

Cheers,
S

[Relax&Cruise]

Hello All, looking to furnish my home. Need advice on buying:

1. 3 x 1 ton AC for rooms of approx. sizes 130 to 155 sq ft.
2. 1x 1.5 ton for room approx. 220 sq ft.

Mitsubishi / Daikin/ Bluestar; should I look at any other brand? Which brand offers best cooling, warranty and services. I'm looking at ISEER 5* inverter AC.

3. Dishwasher 13 or more places.

Looking at LG / IFB / Bosch, any preferences / experience, please share. Croma sales person said Bosch is not suited for Indian cooking residues and that LG has direct drive which is not so good plus LG is more expensive, as per her advice IFB is the best suited. I felt LG was the better choice.

4. Water purifier, wall mounted instant type with no storage.

How is Havells for water purifier? What should I look for in a water purifier?

All the appliances are for use in Mumbai; BMC water, which I believe is soft.

5. Hob with 4 burner, auto ignition and flame failure detection, 60 cm. Pipeline gas. Looking at Hafele / Kaff, seems Bosch burners are more suited for Western cooking. How is Faber in this regard?

6. Chimney, and decent brand, self cleaning etc., not sure what should be priority features in this purchase.

Any guidance, pitfalls need to avoid, experiences and store recommendations much appreciated. I tried Croma and they said for purchases above 1.5 lakhs they will give a bulk discount of 4% over and above any retail discounts. Does anyone know any stores with better deals?

[suzuki san]

Originally Posted by whencut86

You have a lot of brands to choose from - Faber, Elica, Whirlpool, Glen, KAFF, Gilma, etc. Faber, Elica, Whirlpool, Glen will have better servicing.

Hi Guys,

So I finally went for a Faber 3-in-1 "Aero Station".
Cost was Rs. 17,100 at Croma which was 500 cheaper than Amazon. Core cutting, fitting and aluminium piping cost an extra Rs. 3400.00. Total : Rs. 20,500.00.

One would think this is rather expensive for a chimney but, believe me, after 3 days of using this, I have found that it is worth every penny. Compared to the old chimney, this is like 100% improvement. Hardly any smells come out of the kitchen now. I am vey happy with the purchase.

Also, no charcoal filter cartridges here so less expensive in the long run.

Regards,
SS

[carboy]

Guys, the typical Anchor Roma socket has 5 holes - [ATTACH=Plug.png]Socket[/ATTACH]

The middle 2 holes - what standard plug is that supposed to fit?

[Aroy]

Originally Posted by carboy

Guys, the typical Anchor Roma socket has 5 holes - [ATTACH=Plug.png]Socket[/ATTACH]

The middle 2 holes - what standard plug is that supposed to fit?

That is for 2 pin plugs that come with a lot of electronic and low power electrical appliances - Radio, Phone Charger, Table Lamps etc.

[carboy]

Originally Posted by Aroy

That is for 2 pin plugs that come with a lot of electronic and low power electrical appliances - Radio, Phone Charger, Table Lamps etc.

Is it an Indian standard plug or is it a standard from some other country like UK or Euro Plug etc?

[condor]

Originally Posted by carboy

Is it an Indian standard plug or is it a standard from some other country like UK or Euro Plug etc?

Common in India, and for a very long time. The spacing is such that the pins will not fit easily into the lower socket holes of a 3 pin socket. Hence a separate set has been added.

Long before 3-pin plugs became common, it used to be 2-pin plugs. We still get 2 pin plug sockets.

Nothing new

[subraiyr]

Originally Posted by Relax&Cruise

Hello All, looking to furnish my home. Need advice on buying:

3. Dishwasher 13 or more places.

We have a Bosch dishwasher and have been using it for the last 2+ years. We do only Indian cooking to a large extent and it works just fine. The only thing to note is it works on Stainless steel + crockery. It does not work with Aluminium.. So kadais and aluminium cookers are a no no for sure. But the rest, the vessels come out clean. One should note that one should rinse the leftovers before stacking it up

5. Hob with 4 burner, auto ignition and flame failure detection, 60 cm. Pipeline gas. Looking at Hafele / Kaff, seems Bosch burners are more suited for Western cooking. How is Faber in this regard?[/quote]

We have a Kaff burner. We went with a 3 burner for the simple reason that a 3 burner placement is such that you can keep 3 kadais or 2 kadais + a dosa tawa at the same time. With 4 burner the vessels seem to hit each other and cooking becomes difficult. For extra burners, we put a kaff induction stove with 2 burners on the side of the gas burner. This way we have 5 burners in total spaced apart.

6. Chimney, and decent brand, self cleaning etc., not sure what should be priority features in this purchase.

We have a ductless chimney with a charcoal filter. Does its job fine. Again from Kaff. We bought the burner+hob together and we got a good deal across all 3 products

Any guidance, pitfalls need to avoid, experiences and store recommendations much appreciated. I tried Croma and they said for purchases above 1.5 lakhs they will give a bulk discount of 4% over and above any retail discounts. Does anyone know any stores with better deals?

We bought everything from small time retailers. For Kaff we got a 15% discount on MRP. For Bosch dishwasher there was no discounts since it was the first Covid wave. For water puriefier we went with a Kent RO purifier fixed on the wall rather than under the counter. Somehow, the undercounter water filter does not let out all the water out and there is some stagnation. We bought one with a 6 litre storage capacity

[libranof1987]

Originally Posted by Relax&Cruise

Looking at LG / IFB / Bosch, any preferences / experience, please share. Croma sales person said Bosch is not suited for Indian cooking residues and that LG has direct drive which is not so good plus LG is more expensive, as per her advice IFB is the best suited. I felt LG was the better choice.

LG is the best choice, technology wise. LG Direct Drive is what they advertise the most, what about is "not so good" per the SA?! We've had Bosch, had to return two pieces because they had issues. Bosch/Siemens sells outdated tech in India. IFB has fairly good reviews, but if you can stretch a bit, get the LG.

Our LG dishwasher will complete a year soon, absolutely good experience.

[carboy]

Originally Posted by condor

Common in India, and for a very long time.

Yes, I know it's a very common one in India - I myself have a few stuff which fit into that. I was asking if it's some domestic standard or have we adapted that spacing from some international standard?

[SS80]

Originally Posted by suzuki san

Hi Guys,

So I finally went for a Faber 3-in-1 "Aero Station".
The cost was Rs. 17,100 at Croma which was 500 cheaper than Amazon. run.

Regards,
SS

Hi, thanks for sharing the details, could you please upload a few photos of the installation work in progress and the final finished stage. A friend of mine is looking for something similar.

Thanks in advance.

[srini1785]

Originally Posted by carboy

Yes, I know it's a very common one in India - I myself have a few stuff which fit into that. I was asking if it's some domestic standard or have we adapted that spacing from some international standard?

India follows plugs which conform to IS 1293 standards which are itself based on (as always) British BS 546. Every country have their own standards.

For more info please refer to :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60...0International

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_pow...gs_and_sockets

[condor]

Originally Posted by carboy

I was asking if it's some domestic standard or have we adapted that spacing from some international standard?

Just look around. Even my Made-in-Thailand Sony stuff, purchased in the Gulf couple of decades back, uses that type of plug/plug size.