Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here

Crazy_Bean · 25th January 2016, 11:56

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Originally Posted by fusionbang

Based on the prior experiences I would suggest powerbulbs.com, which is reliable in terms of the quality of the bulbs being sourced. Also you will have a minimum of 20% OFF every time.

Thanks mate. The bulbs from powerbulbs after discount are costing about 3000/- which is a bit steep. I am looking to pay about 1500/- which I feel is justified for original bulbs.

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Originally Posted by SunnyBoi

Crystal vision is available on PayTM for 773 after cashback

https://paytm.com/shop/p/philips-cry...19829710E00099

Thanks. Already explored this option, unfortunately these are H4 and I need H7.

SunnyBoi · 25th January 2016, 12:03

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Originally Posted by Crazy_Bean

Thanks. Already explored this option, unfortunately these are H4 and I need H7.

Oops, my bad. They're available on Amazon for Rs 1175

http://www.amazon.in/gp/aw/d/B00NAZINSS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3

abirnale · 29th January 2016, 07:08

Need some expert opinion and help - See this link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post3897055

It looks like the P8 HID kit we have fitted (myself and @fusionbang) in our XUVs via EVO Bangalore are having this peculiar problem of shadows/ lines in beam. Anyone here has used P8 HID kits on the old gen or new gen XUVs? Do you see similar issue? Anything wrong with the setup/ headlights or bulbs or the kit itself is fault? Or P8 will not work with XUVs?

Any pointers on this to sort out would be of great help.

Cross posting image links for quick reference -
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...-sunaybeam.jpg
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...nce-mybeam.jpg

peterjim13 · 29th January 2016, 11:51

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Originally Posted by abirnale

Need some expert opinion and help - See this link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post3897055

It looks like the P8 HID kit we have fitted (myself and @fusionbang) in our XUVs via EVO Bangalore are having this peculiar problem of shadows/ lines in beam. Anyone here has used P8 HID kits on the old gen or new gen XUVs? Do you see similar issue? Anything wrong with the setup/ headlights or bulbs or the kit itself is fault? Or P8 will not work with XUVs?

Any pointers on this to sort out would be of great help.

Cross posting image links for quick reference -
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...-sunaybeam.jpg
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...nce-mybeam.jpg

Hi Abirnale,

Thanks for this post, I was almost going to get P8 Fixed on my 2012 XUV5OO, and had zeroed in on P8 4300K through a wholesale seller here in Cochin.

Very curious to learn the outcome of this discussion as that would influence my buy.

Sorry that I am not an expert here.

Crazy_Bean · 29th January 2016, 12:29

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Originally Posted by SunnyBoi

Oops, my bad. They're available on Amazon for Rs 1175

http://www.amazon.in/gp/aw/d/B00NAZINSS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3

Hi SunnyBoi, Thanks for the link. Just got my bulbs delivered, they look good and legit. Installed pics before/after to follow soon.
This is exactly what I wanted for a decent price. Thanks

mithun · 6th February 2016, 11:16

Is having a bright white headlight against the law ?

IIRC, Central Motor Vehicle rule forbids it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

silversteed · 6th February 2016, 11:26

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Originally Posted by mithun

Is having a bright white headlight against the law ?

IIRC, Central Motor Vehicle rule forbids it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

CMVR goes against modifying any part of the vehicle. Changing headlight bulbs to those of a different type and/or wattage and/or colour temperature is illegal.

Legality apart, the "bright white light" from LEDs (usually upwards of 5000K) and 'whiter bulbs' that go beyond 6000K does little to improve visibility. 4300K is more like daylight and that's what our eyes are better responsive to, compared to higher colour temperatures. The higher the colour temperature, the greater the shift towards blue from yellow. And they tend to get scattered more in foggy conditions, causing more glare than improving visibility.

abirnale · 6th February 2016, 22:04

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Originally Posted by peterjim13

Thanks for this post, I was almost going to get P8 Fixed on my 2012 XUV5OO, and had zeroed in on P8 4300K through a wholesale seller here in Cochin.

Based on the email response you received from P8, it is quiet clear that we can't use it in our XUVs. Period. Go for Osram or Morimoto. I know a few people who have this kit in their cars. They still have shadows, but very smaller one - almost negligible.

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Originally Posted by abirnale

Need some expert opinion and help - See this link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post3897055

The outcome of this discussion is - P8 wont work for XUVs. Go with Morimoto, Philips or Osram. I have reverted to stock though!

reesemylife · 6th February 2016, 22:05

Hey Guys,

I am planning to change the headlamps and the fog lamps in my Volkswagen Vento (2012 model). I do not want to change the whole setup to a projector nor do i want to put while lights in them. So if i have to change the existing halogen bulb with a more powerful one with out adding a ballast, what are my options?

It would be great if you could suggest both Headlamp and Fog Lamp in the 60/55w specification.

Akib Khan · 7th February 2016, 00:48

I have old gen i20. I have H27 bulb in my fog lamps and i want to get a white bulb. Can you guys help me find it.

sgiitk · 7th February 2016, 16:10

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Originally Posted by reesemylife

Hey Guys,

I am planning to change the headlamps and the fog lamps in my Volkswagen Vento (2012 model). I do not want to change the whole setup to a projector nor do i want to put while lights in them. So if i have to change the existing halogen bulb with a more powerful one with out adding a ballast, what are my options?

It would be great if you could suggest both Headlamp and Fog Lamp in the 60/55w specification.

Replace the bulb with an NB+, NB Ultimate or the Phillips equivalent. No other changes will be required.

printh · 7th February 2016, 18:16

I have a similiar query. I updated my stock headlamps to Philips white vision. But,now I am not completely satisfied with illumination especially during night highway drives. I enquired about changing wattage in mahindra first choice to which they replied the wiring can be tapped direct from battery. From reading our forums,I know there's nothing deleterious to warranty if we use plug and play relay,ceramic cut out and install high power bulbs as there is no fiddling with stock wiring. Are these two the same? I mean,does installing have via plug & play relay means direct tapping from battery? Is warranty void since we are fiddling with battery?

reesemylife · 7th February 2016, 18:50

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Originally Posted by sgiitk

Replace the bulb with an NB+, NB Ultimate or the Phillips equivalent. No other changes will be required.

Hi sgiitk!

Thanks for the info. After reading thouroughly through the threads in Team-BHP and the customer reviews, i have zeroed down on the following bulbs,

Headlamps : Phillips Xtreme Vision H4 Headlight Bulb
Fog Lamps : Philips HB4 9006 X-treme Vision headlight bulb

Please let me know if these would be good enough for the vento.

ani_meher · 7th February 2016, 19:55

I used these philips Crystalvision bulb in my Beat for 6 months, and they were the worst 6 months of night driving ever. Nothing much but a show, night travels were really stressful while using these bulbs. They are just like HIDs without the power, so it is mainly faint white light which illuminates almost nothing.

After suffering for 6 months, I finally bought plain regular Philips bulbs costing Rs.110 each, and now Beat is lightening up the night! The regular yellow bulb's performance is far higher that the white light. I wouldn't recommend these white light bulbs to anyone, unless it is 110W or HID. I wasted my 1000Rs, hope no one else does!

Voyager-1 · 8th February 2016, 00:00

I have a basic question about the double barrel and Bi-Xenon headlights. In these, when the high beam is turned on, the low beams cannot be turned off. This reduces the effectiveness of the high beams a lot. Especially since the low beams illuminate the road right in front of the car, they are brighter than the high beams, hence our eyes become less sensitive to the high beams. I am curious to know why it is designed this way. Why can't the low beams turned off when the high beams are on?

In all the cars that have a single bulb for both high and low beams, the low beams are off when the high beams are on (unless one is flashing). I found this more suitable for highway driving. One can always turn on the fogs (when using high beams), if the area right in front of the car needs to be lit.

29th January 2016, 07:08	#9588
abirnale Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2013 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 1,936 Thanked: 9,552 Times View My Garage	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here Need some expert opinion and help - See this link http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post3897055 It looks like the P8 HID kit we have fitted (myself and @fusionbang) in our XUVs via EVO Bangalore are having this peculiar problem of shadows/ lines in beam. Anyone here has used P8 HID kits on the old gen or new gen XUVs? Do you see similar issue? Anything wrong with the setup/ headlights or bulbs or the kit itself is fault? Or P8 will not work with XUVs? Any pointers on this to sort out would be of great help. Cross posting image links for quick reference - http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...-sunaybeam.jpg http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...nce-mybeam.jpg
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mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here Is having a bright white headlight against the law ? IIRC, Central Motor Vehicle rule forbids it. Correct me if I'm wrong. Last edited by mithun : 6th February 2016 at 11:17.
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6th February 2016, 22:05	#9594
reesemylife Newbie Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Chennai Posts: 5 Thanked: 3 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here Hey Guys, I am planning to change the headlamps and the fog lamps in my Volkswagen Vento (2012 model). I do not want to change the whole setup to a projector nor do i want to put while lights in them. So if i have to change the existing halogen bulb with a more powerful one with out adding a ballast, what are my options? It would be great if you could suggest both Headlamp and Fog Lamp in the 60/55w specification.
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7th February 2016, 00:48	#9595
Akib Khan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mumbai. Posts: 216 Thanked: 397 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here I have old gen i20. I have H27 bulb in my fog lamps and i want to get a white bulb. Can you guys help me find it.
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7th February 2016, 18:16	#9597
printh BHPian Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bangalore Posts: 284 Thanked: 165 Times	Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here I have a similiar query. I updated my stock headlamps to Philips white vision. But,now I am not completely satisfied with illumination especially during night highway drives. I enquired about changing wattage in mahindra first choice to which they replied the wiring can be tapped direct from battery. From reading our forums,I know there's nothing deleterious to warranty if we use plug and play relay,ceramic cut out and install high power bulbs as there is no fiddling with stock wiring. Are these two the same? I mean,does installing have via plug & play relay means direct tapping from battery? Is warranty void since we are fiddling with battery?
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7th February 2016, 19:55	#9599
ani_meher Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 1,988 Thanked: 4,101 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here I used these philips Crystalvision bulb in my Beat for 6 months, and they were the worst 6 months of night driving ever. Nothing much but a show, night travels were really stressful while using these bulbs. They are just like HIDs without the power, so it is mainly faint white light which illuminates almost nothing. After suffering for 6 months, I finally bought plain regular Philips bulbs costing Rs.110 each, and now Beat is lightening up the night! The regular yellow bulb's performance is far higher that the white light. I wouldn't recommend these white light bulbs to anyone, unless it is 110W or HID. I wasted my 1000Rs, hope no one else does!
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8th February 2016, 00:00	#9600
Voyager-1 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 249 Thanked: 217 Times	Re: Auto Lighting thread : Post all queries about automobile lighting here I have a basic question about the double barrel and Bi-Xenon headlights. In these, when the high beam is turned on, the low beams cannot be turned off. This reduces the effectiveness of the high beams a lot. Especially since the low beams illuminate the road right in front of the car, they are brighter than the high beams, hence our eyes become less sensitive to the high beams. I am curious to know why it is designed this way. Why can't the low beams turned off when the high beams are on? In all the cars that have a single bulb for both high and low beams, the low beams are off when the high beams are on (unless one is flashing). I found this more suitable for highway driving. One can always turn on the fogs (when using high beams), if the area right in front of the car needs to be lit.
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