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Old 21st October 2017, 21:19   #10276
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Detailed the missus's Baleno Alpha CVT, Urban Blue, 2 days since delivery, in the dealership yard for 6 days.

Product applied:

1. UWW
2. Sonax Paint Prepare
3. Sonax PNS
4. Sonax BSD
5. 303 Protectant - outside plastic and rubber
6. 303 Protectant Wipes - interior plastics
7. Sonax nano glass cleaner spray
8. Pinnacle GlassCoat Window Sealant
9. F1 Tyre Foam
10. Motul Spray and Shine as an alloy wheel sealant

Pictures taken from my Honor 8 Pro with no further image editing. The color looks different under different lighting.

Sonax PNS was a real pain to apply this time - spray and immediate wipe. I waited 5 minutes and repented - was really hard to remove.
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Old 21st October 2017, 21:31   #10277
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Detailed the missus's Baleno Alpha CVT, Urban Blue, 2 days since delivery, in the dealership yard for 6 days.
Excellent Results! your Car shines like some ceramic coating was done to it.
What is 1. UWW?
Can you share from where do we buy these sonax products?
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Old 21st October 2017, 21:35   #10278
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Excellent Results! your Car shines like some ceramic coating was done to it.
What is 1. UWW?
Can you share from where do we buy these sonax products?
UWW - Ultima Waterless Wash. Mohsin of Ultimate Detailzers is the official importer. You can buy from ebay or Amazon or his own website.

The go-to website for Sonax car products in India is carpowergrid.com, part of Methods Automotive - importers of Sonax.

PNS is very very durable. I did a comparison in my Polo and it was going strong in my Polo long after Collinite died. However, it just doesn't have the rich warm glow of a wax, has this typically glossy sealant look.

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PNS is very very durable. I did a comparison in my Polo and it was going strong in my Polo long after Collinite died. However, it just doesn't have the rich warm glow of a wax, has this typically glossy sealant look.

Cheers!
Do you first use the Sonax PNS and top it off with Sonax BSD?

I would like to understand the steps involved. Reading a bit about the products tells me that they both are self sufficient to generate some incredible gloss. In fact, Sonax PNS description recommends avoiding wax over it as it will reduce the durability of PNS.

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PNS is very very durable. I did a comparison in my Polo and it was going strong in my Polo long after Collinite died. However, it just doesn't have the rich warm glow of a wax, has this typically glossy sealant look.

Cheers!

How long did the Collinite last? For me the Collinite has been the best never tried these newer sonax products. I will surely try them.
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This wax lacks the deep shine and Finish of a Carnauba wax, But heck it was cheap got it for less than 1200-/ Rupees during the sale.
Where did you purchased this from ?!!
I have been waiting and waiting for the price to drop - and it's always above 1800 approx.
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How long did the Collinite last? For me the Collinite has been the best never tried these newer sonax products. I will surely try them.
My cars have mostly been parked outside, sometimes under trees. Given my paucity of time/low usage, a watchman cleans them everyday else to reduce the chance of bird poo solidifying.

So, I measured durability based on a combination of drop in gloss levels and water sheeting/beading whenever I detailed over a weekend. I usually do 2 layers. Quick detailing every 15 days.
  • Collinite's effective protection lasted me around 2 months
  • Four Star UPP - about the same
  • Menzerna Power Lock - around 3 months. I must say this is the best sealant I've used in terms of performance-ease of application-slickness.
  • Sonax PNS topped up by BSD every 15 days - 4.5 months before the need to reapply was felt. But the flipside is while it's great in protection, there's just no surface slickness at all. Also, to me, the gloss is too candy-like and there's no warmth like Menzerna.

An exotic option which lasted me around 2 months+ was Bouncer's Vanilla Ice. Love it to bits, but attracts dust. But nothing made the car look better.

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Do you first use the Sonax PNS and top it off with Sonax BSD?
I would like to understand the steps involved. Reading a bit about the products tells me that they both are self sufficient to generate some incredible gloss. In fact, Sonax PNS description recommends avoiding wax over it as it will reduce the durability of PNS.
Yes, usage of BSD prolongs the life of PNS. The steps are very simple. Spray PNS to a foam applicator (I use Sonax's applicator pad pre-sprayed with a quick detailer), apply to surface, wait 20-30 seconds, buff off with a thin MF cloth (you can 'feel' the resistance decrease as you buff).

BSD can be a quick spray on body and remove with MF affair. Can be done immediately after application of PNS or after a few hours - made no difference to me in terms of end results.

No point in using a wax over it since it can't adhere to PNS.

You can also use Sonax Protect and Shine Hybrid NPT - this is the consumer version of NPT and is easier to apply.

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Where did you purchased this from ?!!
I have been waiting and waiting for the price to drop - and it's always above 1800 approx.
Amazon.in
https://www.amazon.in/Meguiars-G1271...s=nxt+tech+wax

During the sale the price fell to about Rupees 1,200-/ and then there was some cash back offers. So I decided to try it.

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Thought of claying my car after ages. Had washed the day before , and wiped down the entire car today again with UWW to prepare for claying. Used the same UWW as a clay lube. Was worried a bit because the clay I have is pretty old (5-6 yrs), but it worked out pretty well in the end.

The decision to decontaminate was justified as a lot of bonded dirt and grime came out. The picture is what came out of just one door panel.

Then thought of doing some corrections and light polishing, but felt lazy and just used some Meg's tech wax 2 to seal for now.
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Hi folks,

Two weeks ago, thought of detailing my Jazzy with some goodies.

Here's what I have for her in my kitty. By the way, I share them equally with her elder sibling, the Honda City we own, although the City barges in a bit more of the share for she is 0.4m longer than the Jazz.
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Honestly, I am not a detailing guru and over the past years, my actions had been limited to waxing from outside and protecting interiors with a decent protectant. I do not have any experience with claying as many of you out here, so I first jopasu'd and then washed my car. Yes, a normal car wash followed by letting her drying. And then did follow the sequence:

Applied a little quantity of Meguiar's Ultimate Compound with an applicator pad to the selective areas where I knew were some minor scratches. Buffed it well before it would dry.

Applied Formula 1 paste wax in a circular manner(clockwise motion) and let it to haze.
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Buffing Formula 1 paste wax with help of a micro fiber mitt(counter-clockwise motion). You can spot the difference between the 'buffed' and 'to be buffed' surface.
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The result was a silky smooth & a shiny surface, happy to bead water, BUT no to last too long.

Ideally there should be a gap of atleast 12 hours before a second cote, but as I am not a detailing guru and had I left her there, may be the second cote would have never happened , so I started over with the application of Collinite Number 845(in clockwise motion) with the help of Detailer's Choice microfiber applicator pad.
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Ensured a thin layer to cover the entire body. The application took much lesser effort than what the Formula 1 paste wax had demanded. And then...

Left the Collinite Number 845 to haze as well.
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Finally, buffed the hazed layer of Collinite Number 845 using a microfiber mitt. And here are the results:
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What about the alloys? My favourite!! Well, I first treated them with plain water wash and let them dry/wiped. This removed all the loose dirt and leave with stubborn greasy stains. Now I sprayed Pheonix 1 alloy cleaner and left it applied for about 10 minutes. I wondered, how easy it was to remove those greasy stains with an easy wipe-off using a tissue hand-towel. It left with a clean and a waxy finish.

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And finally after almost 4 hours of DIY, the surface appeared like a mirror while the alloys are clean & shiny. Can you see the reflection of the car parked across?
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Finally, Jazzy was happy with her treatment and said thank you!
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Post 2 weeks/~800 km running, with the car cleaner coming everyday and treating her in his own manner, Jazzy is still shining and beading water. Although, the alloys again seem to be needing a treatment soon.

Cheers!
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When we were away from home in Diwali holidays, there was paintwork going on in the neighborhood.

They sprayed some kind of polish on wooden furniture, which layered on my i10 car parked outside. Both windshields, window glasses and hood is covered with fine mist of the spray mixed with dust.
Tried with Amway shampoo and Ultima Waterless wash but it is not going. . Any suggestions for removal?
Will isopropyl alcohol or an all purpose cleaner will work? Glass is really in bed condition and difficulty at night driving is maximum.

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When we were away from home in Diwali holidays, there was paintwork going on in the neighborhood.

They sprayed some kind of polish on wooden furniture, which layered on my i10 car parked outside. Both windshields, window glasses and hood is covered with fine mist of the spray mixed with dust.
Tried with Amway shampoo and Ultima Waterless wash but it is not going. . Any suggestions for removal?
Will isopropyl alcohol or an all purpose cleaner will work? Glass is really in bed condition and difficulty at night driving is maximum.
I am no guru but I feel your car will need claying. The furniture would be most likely be sprayed with some matte or glossy lacquer which is not soluble with IPA. It will need a solvent like thinner to dissolve. But using thinner will eat away your cars paint too. Hence, its safer to clay the car and then treat it with some polish or wax. For the glasses you could either clay them or wipe it down with a solvent. Not for the paint though. Best bet will be to take it to a detailer and leave them to decide whats best.

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They sprayed some kind of polish on wooden furniture, which layered on my i10 car parked outside. Both windshields, window glasses and hood is covered with fine mist of the spray mixed with dust. ... ......
Horrible. "Melamine" I suppose. I think it is some sort of resin composition. It is tough and lasting on the woodwork, so I guess it will be on car paintwork too

Looking on the slightly brighter side, woodwork would not be covered in paint-unfriendly stuff like wax, so that may mitigate. Still, nothing of the household/mild stuff is going to remove it. I think you should take it to a specialist
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I am no guru but I feel your car will need claying. The furniture would be most likely be sprayed with some matte or glossy lacquer which is not soluble with IPA. It will need a solvent like thinner to dissolve. But using thinner will eat away your cars paint too. Hence, its safer to clay the car and then treat it with some polish or wax. For the glasses you could either clay them or wipe it down with a solvent. Not for the paint though. Best bet will be to take it to a detailer and leave them to decide whats best.
As I am living in a peripheral city, don't have any reliable detailers here. Only option is to take it to company authorized workshop. I am already having nanoskin block for decontamination. Will that work on it? Any particular lubricant will help? I use ultima waterless wash regularly.
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Only option is to take it to company authorized workshop.
Don't. They shall mess it up further.

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I am already having nanoskin block for decontamination. Will that work on it?
a clay or clay alternative like nanoskin should work.

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Any particular lubricant will help? I use ultima waterless wash regularly.
UWW diluted to 44:1 with water is what I use as a QD and clay lube.


Try a DIY on a small area - there's always a professional whom you can fall back later. You can also try a small cotton ball soaked in NC thinner on a small portion of glass area (won't advise using thinner on paint).
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