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Originally Posted by alphahere I am also on the wait now to get my Compass S 4x4. I chose white and they have promised a delivery in the first week of 2023. I already own an X1 xDrive at the place where I work and live (not my hometown). I can say that the Bimmer can't be steered with one finger or one hand. Even if you wanted to steer it with one hand you'd have to wrap your fingers where you can find the leverage. It is not feather light. But it is good, it feels really connected and you don't find yourself correcting the path because the car did not track where expected. I haven't driven the Jeep in it's Indian avatar but I had a short stint with the 4xe version just to get a feel of the interiors to see what I was getting into here. The wheel was surely lighter than the BMW.
I'd go for 33psi all round, it seems to be the better balance of FE, handling and comfort. Will need to see if this holds true for the Jeep as well, but I'd make a wild guess that it does. Not sure why they would recommend 35psi and I don't think tire pressure varies wildly based on loading unless the load causes a change in the volume of the tire. |
Thank you alphahere. Appreciate your response. Good to know the difference in how the steering feels between the X1 and Compass.
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Originally Posted by CLIX My 2cents on tyre pressure.
- Lower tyre pressure will mean more side-wall flexing leading to heating - the cause for many tyre bursts.
- 1 or 1.5 PSI Less, Will it matter? IMHO it may not if not on peak load.
However the accuracy of the guages used is not too high and between fuel stations we sometimes find a difference of 1 PSI as it is.
I just stick to 35 & 32. Not really knowing if 35 is actually 35. Could be a little higher or lower. |
Thank you CLIX. Yes, the air pressure machines at fuel stations are not really accurate. Probably because they do not maintain the machines well. I have been using a Tusa Tyre Inflator since a year and I am not sure if that is accurate either. One thing that I noticed with the Tusa tyre inflator is that, say if I set a pressure of 30psi and inflate a tyre, the machine reaches 30 psi and stops but immediately after this the display shows 31.5psi. So, when I set 34psi it looks like the actual pressure that the machine inflated the tyre to is 35.5psi. I have not cross checked it through any scientific method, but having driven a car for so many years, I can feel the bouncy ride if the pressure is high. Based on that I decided to set the pressure on the Tusa tyre inflator to 1.5psi less than the desired pressure whenever I am topping up. Moreover, after much experimentation, I have found that the optimum tyre pressure seems to be 33psi at the front and 30psi at the rear- This is for one, two or three people with less luggage. But if the passengers are on the heavier side or if the car is loaded with heavy luggage, the pressure can be bumped up to 35psi for the front and 32psi or higher for the rear.
I had also tried 31psi for the front but I realized that it was too low after I felt vibrations from the steering wheel at speeds of 120kmph and above.
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Originally Posted by motorworks Welcome to Team-Bhp! Great to know about a fellow Jeeper from Udumalpet ( I’m from the Pollachi-Coimbatore belt, but based out of Bangalore for the last 20 years now ).
I’m quite new to Jeep as well, having bought my Jeep Compass 5th Anniversary edition Diesel AT 4x4 just 3 months ago. I’m just going to try and address some of the points you mentioned, some maybe purely subjective, but here goes.
Build Quality—I really dont know how and why you would find the Fabia to be better. Yes, the Fabia was almost euro spec when it launched in india, but I don’t think the Compass is anywhere behind. I have not owned a fabia like the way you have, so I may not be able to comment on your comparisons.
Second, and no offence, the Fabia was never a driver’s car or an enthusiast’s car by any stretch. So here again I'm not sure about your comparisons on handling etc. I think we must not mistake the agility of a hatchback as better handling versus that of a rather much bigger and heavier SUV. I have just done Bangalore- Wayanad and have driven on some really good “S” corners and I can tell you that this is a true benchmark for SUVs in handling. I have owned a Rapid and a Creta ( 1st gen ) in the past for reference. In fact, even the Polos, Ventos and the Rapids ( which suddenly have attained halo status of driver’s cars post them being discontinued) really struggle on “S” corners. Again, we just cannot compare any of these to the Compass. Just look at the weight, dimensions and you would know instantly that there cannot be any like for like comparisons.
Third point on Tyre sizes, my car came with 18” Turanzas and they aren’t bad at all. Although I have seen many fellow jeepers being happy with their 17” since they are cheaper to replace, and plus the additional side wall height is a boon on some instances as well. The stock firestones in general are not the best, if you can, switch to brands like Continental or even Yokohoma Geolandars ( The bangalore jeep group got discounts on Geolandar 17” from Yokohama and I hear many good reviews for this). Its a higher profile, but its within the acceptable deviation. I had 235 profile Geolandars in my earlier Creta and it made such a huge difference in handling and grip ( and that on a car which was a bit slippery all the time). So a good option would be to switch to some really good tyres. Moving to 18” may be just too expensive, you would need to invest on alloys as well, rather look at Yokohama Geolandars on 17” profile. If you are interested, I can check with the Yokohoma dealer for a good deal on the 17”.
On tyre pressure, i dont know whats the recommended psi for 17”, but I have stuck to stock recommendations of 37/34 for my car. I tried adjusting it by 1psi, but stock setting seems to work the best.
On your query on crash test rating, although there has been no straightforward record of the India made Jeep Compass, it has been tested and has been rated 5 in ANCAP. But the flipside here is that all such crash tests have been done on petrol variants. If you read some of our threads on the Harrier, Safari and even the MG Hector Diesel, you will realise that none of the RHD cars with Fiat’s 2.0 diesel engine have been crash tested. I read somewhere that this is because of a possible design flaw with some part which supposedly intrudes into the driver’s footwell area, thereby delivering a lower crash rating. Not really sure what are the facts, but there is not going to be any new crash test on the Compass for sure. But, fundamentally the car is well built ( i’m sure you would have seen videos on the making of the Compass in the indian factory and even the india made jeep compass ANCAP crash test), so we need not worry about this to a large extent. |
Hello motorworks. It is nice to meet someone from Coimbatore area here on TeamBHP. Congratulations on your new Jeep Compass.
Coming to your reply,
Build Quality: The build quality of the Jeep Compass is in no way bad. I have only made comparisons to my previous car and listed down what I observed and felt. The Fabia was Euro spec. It came as CKD kits and was assembled in India. Only from 2010 onwards they started manufacturing it in India with a bit more locally produced components. Like you mentioned, the ANCAP crash test ratings are good and so there seems to be no need to worry about safety in the Compass.
Handling: I had already mentioned in my previous post that one cannot expect a high riding, heavy Crossover to handle like a low riding, little hatchback. I am aware that the Centre of Gravity, the longer wheelbase, the extra weight that comes with a larger car would have negative effects on driving dynamics. But it doesn't mean the Compass is bad in the handling department. It is enjoyable, but not impressive when pushed hard. I know I cannot expect it to be as impressive as the lighter cars in the corners.
By the way, the Polos, Rapids, Ventos and Fabias did handle much better than many other cars in their class. Only the Fiat Punto and Linea were even better than the Skodas and Volkswagens.
Tyres and Alloys: I was thinking about changing the alloys to 18 inch once the current tyres are up for replacement. But I am not sure if I would really do that. I feel like it doesn't make financial sense. So, the Geolanders you were talking about seem to be available only on 235/65 R17. Is this the tyre size you said many had changed to?
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Originally Posted by torque_87 I have a Model S 4x2 Petrol AT and after multiple trial and error I have found a sweet spot at 33 psi on all 4 wheels. On long drives TPMS shows that the pressure has gone up to 35 psi and I feel a bit of thudding on bumps but not uncomfortable. When I started with the recommended pressures my front tyre started hitting 36-37 psi and that made it really uncomfortable. My reco is to keep it at 33 Psi on all 4 wheels. |
Thank you torque_87. The tyre pressure that I found to be optimal is 33psi for the front and 30psi for the rear for light loads. I have mentioned about this in detail in the reply for one of the quotes above.