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Old 9th September 2023, 14:43   #9001
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Re: Mahindra XUV700 Review

Another recall, this one in Australia, over concerns of fire hazard.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-m...all-australia/
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Old 9th September 2023, 20:36   #9002
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Another recall, this one in Australia, over concerns of fire hazard.

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2023-m...all-australia/
This is the same recall here in India.

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Also, would like to note that the "Fuel Filled" alert has never come up a single time, when I have actually filled fuel!
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Earlier when I used to fill fuel with “top up” method that is filling beyond the cut off, never got the “fuel filled” alert. But since hearing about the overflow of diesel while driving, I have only been filling till the cut off and most often I do see the alert pop up on the phone.

I guess its got to do with the s/w that is inconsistent in its behaviour.

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Is the SW version 10.27.62 also compatible with the AX7 L Diesel AT?

There are different versions available for both manual and automatic transmissions in combination with petrol and diesel variants.

It would be helpful if someone could clarify whether the same SW version(10.27.62) is offered for the Diesel Automatic AX7 L.
I know for sure that different variants have different versions. Mine being AX7L D AT the ver. is 10.27.61. I have noticed that the version for my car would be such that the last digit is always one less than the Manual or non-L version.

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Well according to me the versions should be same for both petrol and diesel variants. The package might include software changes as a whole and changes would apply for variants having those features.
I believe between manual and automatic and L v Non-L there is a different version where the manual one has a higher version number. Not sure between petrol and diesel though.

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Apologies but for some strange reason was not able to merge all my replies! Request MOD to merge them. Thanks is advance

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Old 10th September 2023, 00:45   #9003
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I know for sure that different variants have different versions. Mine being AX7L D AT the ver. is 10.27.61. I have noticed that the version for my car would be such that the last digit is always one less than the Manual or non-L version.
I believe between manual and automatic and L v Non-L there is a different version where the manual one has a higher version number. Not sure between petrol and diesel though.
You are correct, and I completely agree with you. My Service Advisor (SA) informed me that the AX7 L Diesel AT has version 10.27.61 as the latest software update. However, I am still encountering several issues, as outlined in my previous post, which I have tagged below.
1) Alexa working - 2/10 (works 2 times out of 10 trips, Alexa was not able to work during 8 trips & each trip was approximately 25-30 km long)
2) Apple Car Play connection - 4/10
3) Subwoofer and music system quality on Bluetooth/carplay - 5/10
4) System hang/Blank screen - 4/10 ( 4 times in 10 trips)
5) Auto refueling on Adrenox - 8-9 times in 10 days

One of the problems as mentioned in point 8 below is that Adrenox keeps refilling repeatedly without any actual refueling. This issue automatically resets my fuel efficiency in accordance with the settings I've configured.

Mr Anand Mahindra shall establish a dedicated task force to address the persistent Software issues plaguing Adrenox.
Regrettably, over the course of nearly two years, they have been unable to develop a stable version, while competitors such as Honda and Maruti have effortlessly delivered flawless solutions from the very first day of launch.

We feel as though we are serving as test subjects, akin to guinea pigs, in Mahindra's product development process. Therefore the Adrenox subscription must be extended by an additional two years for existing customers (AX7 + AX7 L variant) and 1 year for other variants.
I have visited the service center 5-6 times for software updates only and Till today it is not fixed.
Individuals buying Mahindra should exercise prudent judgment, as acquiring a vehicle may be straightforward, but sustaining it over an extended period, especially for daily use, can prove to be challenging.


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If you're contemplating an update for the Mahindra XUV 700, here's my experience with it following the recent MAPPLS update:
  1. Despite recent updates, the system remains buggy. As a premium Adrenox subscriber, I can't enjoy music due to poor VI network, and even when it works, there are lot of ads, raising questions about the subscription's value.
  2. Apple CarPlay in the Mahindra XUV 700 is highly glitchy, unlike its smooth operation in Maruti, Toyota, Kia, Tata, and other cars. Despite numerous updates, Mahindra has not yet achieved a flawless experience and is far away from perfection.
  3. The Sony premium sound system performs flawlessly with Alexa music, delivering excellent sound quality. However, it falls short when used with Apple CarPlay and Bluetooth, where the sound quality is disappointing/ very very poor. This issue appears to be unique to Mahindra vehicles and hasn't been experienced in my other cars.
  4. Unwanted apps clutter the system like Zomato, Weather, and all other apps. Mahindra should offer the option to remove them to free up space.
  5. Internet connectivity is inconsistent. Sometimes it's active for Mapples and weather, but Alexa remains unresponsive. Alexa will never get fixed by Mahindra.
  6. Mahindra, please allow us to install apps like JioSaavn or Gaana for direct music playback, bypassing Alexa's issues.
  7. I'd be willing to pay extra for a software fix. Compared to more affordable Maruti cars, my XUV 700 has been more hassle than it's worth. Cars costing 7 lakhs provide a more hassle-free experience compared to the 27 lakhs car.
  8. Fuel efficiency settings have gone awry after the recent update, resetting without refueling.
Even if Mr. Anand Mahindra himself drove an XUV700, I'm certain he'd be frustrated and might contemplate banging his head against the head unit due to the Adrenox screen's daily quirks.
I hope he is reading this post, as he could potentially spearhead a major recall to address these issues at the earliest.

Photo of advertisements in between while playing music through Alexa(Jio Savan). I was unable to click the clear picture.
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Old 10th September 2023, 12:29   #9004
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You are correct, and I completely agree with you. My Service Advisor (SA) informed me that the AX7 L Diesel AT has version 10.27.61 as the latest software update. However, I am still encountering several issues, as outlined in my previous post, which I have tagged below.
1) Alexa working - 2/10 (works 2 times out of 10 trips, Alexa was not able to work during 8 trips & each trip was approximately 25-30 km long)
2) Apple Car Play connection - 4/10
3) Subwoofer and music system quality on Bluetooth/carplay - 5/10
4) System hang/Blank screen - 4/10 ( 4 times in 10 trips)
5) Auto refueling on Adrenox - 8-9 times in 10 days

One of the problems as mentioned in point 8 below is that Adrenox keeps refilling repeatedly without any actual refueling. This issue automatically resets my fuel efficiency in accordance with the settings I've configured.

Mr Anand Mahindra shall establish a dedicated task force to address the persistent Software issues plaguing Adrenox.
Regrettably, over the course of nearly two years, they have been unable to develop a stable version, while competitors such as Honda and Maruti have effortlessly delivered flawless solutions from the very first day of launch.

We feel as though we are serving as test subjects, akin to guinea pigs, in Mahindra's product development process. Therefore the Adrenox subscription must be extended by an additional two years for existing customers (AX7 + AX7 L variant) and 1 year for other variants.
I have visited the service center 5-6 times for software updates only and Till today it is not fixed.
Individuals buying Mahindra should exercise prudent judgment, as acquiring a vehicle may be straightforward, but sustaining it over an extended period, especially for daily use, can prove to be challenging.
Hope that Mahindra pushes out the equivalent version of 10.27.62 to all the variants as soon as possible since upon observation it feels the most stable update Mahindra has pushed out so far which takes all the previous problems into consideration. Update - Remote functions and connected car features work faster and more fluently than before. The app almost instantly connects to the car and carries out the functions, which is really a great sign!!
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Old 10th September 2023, 15:19   #9005
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Has anyone tried any door edge protectors on your car? I somehow did not like the Mahindra door rubber lining, and my car is white. Can any of you help?
I am using this. It is Good.
https://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B08...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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However, I am still encountering several issues, as outlined in my previous post, which I have tagged below.
2) Apple Car Play connection - 4/10
3) Subwoofer and music system quality on Bluetooth/carplay - 5/10
I haven’t faced any of these issues yet. In fact Apple CarPlay has been working better since the previous update. And as I mentioned it resolved many of the earlier niggles. I don’t use Alexa, so can’t comment, but everything else works fine. For the audio quality, you may want to individually check if al the speakers and subwoofer are working correctly, by changing the Balance, Fader, sound field, size, position etc.

If nothing else works, ask the SA to reflash the software and be present in the car to see if any errors pop up during the update. The process is software update through USB followed by flashing of the silver box. ANd lastly they check if all electrical components are working and learning of the sunroof. For the sunroof they just open and close it a couple of times, which they said is the system learns to open and shut fully and operate smoothly thereafter.

I hope it gets resolved.

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Hi All -
Needed some advice from this esteemed group.

1. No Claim Bonus - I have a car that I do not plan to sell. However, was hoping that I could take a new insurance and transfer the No Claim Bonus to XUV700. Any guidance on how it can be done (or can it be done?) would be helpful. Also, can an NCB refund be initiated for the current year, if I am able to get an NCB certificate?

If you take the insurance for the new car from the same Insurance provider then the NCB transfer would be seamless. Otherwise you will have to produce the NCB certificate before you take the new policy. Change of NCB midway in the policy period and refund of excess amount is not possible. However, the NCB certificate is valid for three years and you can get the NCB changed before renewal of policy in the second year, but it would not be easy.

I know this because similar incident happened with me. In the second year the insurer initially refused and only when I threatened to refer the case to the regulatory authority did they agree to change the NCB from 20% to 50%.

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Quick Question to members.

I upgraded the software and got the Mappls update last week (31st Aug). Since then, twice I have got notification on Adrenox for 'Fuel Filled' and an entry shows up in the app.
If you swap the un-wanted entries to the left, you'll find the delete icon. This gives an option to keep only the relevant entries. Have never tried this because I do not use the adrenox for fuel records.


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It would be helpful if someone could clarify whether the same SW version(10.27.62) is offered for the Diesel Automatic AX7 L.
I will inquire further with my SA again.
The software versions are always different for the L variant and the Others.
It was there in the previous two software updates also. There is no differentiation by fuel type though.

Personally I feel that the latest software is far better than the previous one, and I own the L variant. Maybe there are some issues with the update in your car. What you can do is to ask your co-tek to un-install the latest version and re-install properly. I was also facing screen blank and connectivity issues in my car and those have actually been addressed by the latest software update.
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If you take the insurance for the new car from the same Insurance provider then the NCB transfer would be seamless.
Thank you for your guidance. It is very helpful. Unfortunately, I was not able to get the NCB certificate in time for registration. However, will ensure that I will have it in time for the renewal.

On a totally unrelated note - How strongly recommended is a PPF or ceramic coating? I almost stretched my budget to get the new car and ~1L more - Would want to do it only if there are significant benefits. Was just thinking of getting a side step, mud flaps and infotainment screen protector.

Any view is very helpful!

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On a totally unrelated note - How strongly recommended is a PPF or ceramic coating? I almost stretched my budget to get the new car and ~1L more - Would want to do it only if there are significant benefits. Was just thinking of getting a side step, mud flaps and infotainment screen protector.

Any view is very helpful!
PPF or ceramic coating is not a necessary item. My suggestion is to go for these gimmics only if you can comfortably afford them. Enjoy the beast as-it-is and in four or five years time you can completely repaint the car at half the cost. If you feel then you can have them after six months or one year also.

Accessories worth buying from M&M are :-
Side Steps.
Illuminated Scuff Plates.
Mud flaps.
Screen Guard.
Rear guard.
Sun Shades.
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If you swap the un-wanted entries to the left, you'll find the delete icon. This gives an option to keep only the relevant entries. Have never tried this because I do not use the adrenox for fuel records.
@Sommos: That is correct and I'm aware of the feature and have been using to remove the wrong entries. The gripe is with the incorrect notifications, especially on a software that we are paying for! To get a prompt as we fill fuel is a pretty nifty feature.
Even to use remote car controls, we are at the mercy of the eSim network and the controls screen takes ages to load.
Sad that these niggles still exist and we have not seen any steps from M&M to improve the user experience.
After the latest update, I have been trying to reconfigure Alexa for the past 1 week or so, but everytime it fails (even in a good network location)

Anyway, as suggested by multiple members, looks like the WYH app does a better job of maintaining the fuel logs and maybe I should start using it. In any case, Adrenox doesn't give FE numbers for the Petrol variants.
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Accessories worth buying from M&M are :-
Side Steps.
Illuminated Scuff Plates.
Mud flaps.
Screen Guard.
Rear guard.
Sun Shades.
Have you tried any door edge protectors?
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On a totally unrelated note - How strongly recommended is a PPF or ceramic coating? I almost stretched my budget to get the new car and ~1L more - Would want to do it only if there are significant benefits.

Any view is very helpful!
Every 6 months give it a wax coating which is more than enough per se. It should cost you about 1000\- bucks, or better you can do it yourself, just needs 2-3 hrs of hard work. There are some excellent threads here in Team-BHP about the same.

There are many YouTube videos of the same too. Just check out one of them.


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PPF or ceramic coating is not a necessary item. My suggestion is to go for these gimmics only if you can comfortably afford them. Enjoy the beast as-it-is and in four or five years time you can completely repaint the car at half the cost. If you feel then you can have them after six months or one year also.
Thank you for this guidance. It will definitely save me a lot of money and still give me peace of mind.


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Accessories worth buying from M&M are :-
Side Steps.
Illuminated Scuff Plates.
Mud flaps.
Screen Guard.
Rear guard.
Sun Shades.
Thank you for the advice. I am assuming that the Rear Guard means the bumper protector bar. If so, a few people advised me that it is illegal. Given your location mentions - Venice of East, I am assuming you are in Kerala. The MVD in Kerala is notorious for enforcing these types of things. Have you faced any challenges in this aspect?
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Every 6 months give it a wax coating which is more than enough per se. It should cost you about 1000\- bucks, or better you can do it yourself, just needs 2-3 hrs of hard work. There are some excellent threads here in Team-BHP about the same.
Thank you for your advice and for sharing the video. It is really helpful and gives me the confidence to go ahead without a PPF. I have a Honda City and do not have any coating (and still managed to reasonably good condition of paint). I have also read an article where people suggested that one can go for full body paint post 5 years and it may cost less than the PPF treatment cost.
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My dealer is trying to sell me the under-body protection as well - Some rubber-based application to protect the underbody of the vehicle. Does it have any benefit?
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My dealer is trying to sell me the under-body protection as well. Does it have any benefit?
I am assuming you are referring to the under body coating. From my interactions with reliable car detailing shops and some threads in Team BHP itself, they are not needed. Cars in India comes with necessary under body coating. 'Rubber based' sounds interesting though. Also, wonder what side effects would that have! I would ask the dealer for exact details like brand or composition and do some research. Usually, under body protection is a way to make some quick bucks for the body shop owners.
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